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ALL WHO SEEK HARDSTYLE VOCALS, READ THIS

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Re: ALL WHO SEEK HARDSTYLE VOCALS, READ THIS

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soepa wrote:this might be a dumb question, but is it really legal to sample audio (vocals or anything else) from a movie or game and use it in a track that will be released on a label?
if you have the right to do so (ask the publisher/studio) then yes
otherwise i think non-commercial use is legal to a certain degree (free releases etc)
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soepa wrote:this might be a dumb question, but is it really legal to sample audio (vocals or anything else) from a movie or game and use it in a track that will be released on a label?
It's only illegal if you get caught. ;) :+

Actually, it would probably depend on a courts interpretation of the copyright law, were it to go that far. While I believe all works are covered by the same laws, common sense would suggest that they may be implemented differently for different types of media. For example, using an audio clip from a film in a musical composition is very different to using the same clip as audio in another movie. At least that's the way I'd look at it. But I'm no authority on the subject.

At the end of the day, legal or illegal, I'd imagine it would be highly unlikely that a publisher would drag a nobody into court for copyright infringement. It'd be different if you were Kanye West and made a million bucks off a #1 single with an uncleared sample, but you'd get nought out of any DJ who isn't David Guetta or Tiesto or someone. That said, I suppose any charges would be not against the artist, but the label (which is probably in a very different position financially).

I dunno... I guess that to put it simply- you're not breaking the law if nobody important cares. It only becomes a problem when you get rich off somebody else's hard work.
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I think that, at worst, they could force you to pay the profit you made with the track to the publisher. And, you know, like if that's more than the cost of going to court.
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Post by Minion »

Darycka wrote:I think that, at worst, they could force you to pay the profit you made with the track to the publisher. And, you know, like if that's more than the cost of going to court.
I think it was something with 16 or 8 seconds constantly is kind of free to use?! But otherwise you mention the other artist et cetera or with a release some of the money goes to the participating party...

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Minion wrote: I think it was something with 16 or 8 seconds constantly is kind of free to use?!
Wrong, sorry but this is a nothing more than an urban myth. Copyright laws are different in every country and constantly changing due to the fast moving pace of todays media, so if you plan on sampling something, a quick mail to your national licensing organization (for UK check out PPL) to find out the do's and don't's can save you a lot of trouble down the line.

We get a lot of demo's through with copyrighted material we just can't sign due to the fact that you need permission to use it, and that comes at a cost!

You can however release a cover version of something, as long as your re-record the vocal or the part you sample and/or credit the original artist, so that for example PPL can obtain royalties for that artist automatically. Movies and games you need to contact not only the director of the film/game, but also the studios, actors and anyone else possibly involved in it, again this is at a cost!

At the moment, free releases seem to be fair game, and hopefully that continues! Also you have the public domain which can be sampled from freely as well as some youtube videos (be careful though as video licensing companies may also be involved), as well as the millionssss of sample packs out there. Look past vengeance and trailer voices, there are some really great ones out there. Or get a mic and record your own! Add's more elements of fun to producing :)

For me, sampling is a big part of dance music and its sad that its now gotten to the stage were you can end up paying out big amounts of compensation for misuse of someone else's recordings.

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Post by DuaLisTicZ »

Hey you producers out there,
my name is DuaLisTicz and I work for ReQ of BanG.

We are different musicians from germany and produce Vocals for Hardstyle.
Not even for nothing but also we have to get some € for our Job to bring our skill and Equipment to perfection.

We have 3 kind of singers in this formation ..
So me "DuaLisTicz" is/was a rapper in the german Scene..
Cra$hmaTicz is a female singer and do also Rap in combination with DuaLisTicz.
Siqq-Noize comes from Metal and Hard Rock and is prepared for screams and singin.

Are you interested?
Req-of-bang@live.de or Dualisticz@hotmail.com

A first preview we get tomorrow of DuaLisTicz and Reminder - Hardshock Terrorist

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Now we get preferences about our Vocals, if you are interested send a message to dualisticz@hotmail.com

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Post by nznexus »

i wonder how brennan heart makes his vocals, basically i n every track he made with vocals its the same deep voice. i wonder if he records these acapellas himself or if someone makes it...

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nznexus wrote:i wonder how brennan heart makes his vocals, basically i n every track he made with vocals its the same deep voice. i wonder if he records these acapellas himself or if someone makes it...
probably just uses the same voice artist, if you find someone you like and can work with, why change :)

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EpidemicBlack wrote:
nznexus wrote:i wonder how brennan heart makes his vocals, basically i n every track he made with vocals its the same deep voice. i wonder if he records these acapellas himself or if someone makes it...
probably just uses the same voice artist, if you find someone you like and can work with, why change :)
Generic tracks?

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