Record Hardware Synths in HQ

[Dj Reaper]

I see for e.g. HHZ in his videos using Moogs and his Andromeda, Zatox uses JP-8000 and so on and all their songs sound fantastic.
I have a Synth too but always when I try to record it in Fl Studio the track sounds weak and doesn´t fit into the mix. When I load let´s say an instance of Sylenth it sounds perfectly wide and powerful, maybe just few EQ tweaks and it sits, but with Hardware for e.g. I need to make it very loud and when I load some VEC Samples they sound far too powerful for it.
How would you go for recording? I know with Viruses it´s different, but I ask for MIDI-capable Synths in general.
And how would you make it the easiest way to record the notes? With souftware Synths you can just use the piano roll but how do I do with Hardware synths? There is always some kind of latency.

I have an M-Audio Fast Track Audio Interface (with phisically broken MIDI Out), an M-Audio Uno MIDI Usb Interface, btw I rout my Hardware trough a small external mixer (just a little one which I have from the times I played as Keyboarder in a Band) before it goes into my Audio Interface.

What I am basically asking for is how to set the things up so that my synths sound as HQ like all Hardware-Synths heard in Hardstyle and that I can work fluidly with MIDI, so that basically everything works as near to Softsynths as possible. Hope that somebody can help me, who doesn´t work completely ITB.

Thanks in advance!

[Echidna]

record all audio in 24bit. fl seems to have a lot of latency when routing hardware. I use cubase and just bounce all my hardware synths in via a new audio track. and the virus is no different! it still needs bounced, but the ti can use usb and the vst instead of midi

[TheRavestyler]

record all audio in 24bit. fl seems to have a lot of latency when routing hardware. I use cubase and just bounce all my hardware synths in via a new audio track. and the virus is no different! it still needs bounced, but the ti can use usb and the vst instead of midi

+ In Cubase u Can Live Record urstuff to an Audio Bus and that way u dont need to export anything.

[Echidna]

record all audio in 24bit. fl seems to have a lot of latency when routing hardware. I use cubase and just bounce all my hardware synths in via a new audio track. and the virus is no different! it still needs bounced, but the ti can use usb and the vst instead of midi

+ In Cubase u Can Live Record urstuff to an Audio Bus and that way u dont need to export anything.

yea that's what I mean lol cubase is the best!

[thesh3ll]

can't you just record it with edison?

[Dj Reaper]

Thanks for your help. But I don´t want to record life (that means playing notes on the keyboard?) because tough I know how to play Keyboard, in EDM and especially in Hardstyle most melodies are very mechanical and everything should sit right and I could play it 100 times until I get the exact rhythm, or I have to f*uck around with correcting MIDI notes. So I prefer, if it is possible somehow to do it similarly to softsynths. I mean how does HHZ do? Does he really play everything manually where he uses Hardware Synths.

And I tried recording in Edison but as said it doesn´t sound broad and powerful, is there a special thenique to mix Hardware Supersaws and that stuff into a mostly digital track?

EDIT:
I tried cubase once, but to me FL seems much easier. I´ll perhaps have to learn cubase tough one day, as it is more flexible with audio clips..that will be compicated

[Echidna]

Thanks for your help. But I don´t want to record life (that means playing notes on the keyboard?) because tough I know how to play Keyboard, in EDM and especially in Hardstyle most melodies are very mechanical and everything should sit right and I could play it 100 times until I get the exact rhythm, or I have to f*uck around with correcting MIDI notes. So I prefer, if it is possible somehow to do it similarly to softsynths. I mean how does HHZ do? Does he really play everything manually where he uses Hardware Synths.

what?! no no no, route it through midi, use the fl plugin MIDI OUT and set the midi channel to the same as the midi channel on your synth, you then record the audio coming back in

[Desertoz]

FL Studio=Insert=Midi Out

[Dj Reaper]

I solved the problem with MIDI now, but still the audio sounds strange, so weak:
Here I uploaded an example, the exact same midi notes routed trough the same channel, first time played by Software and the second time by my external Synth (bounced of course):



You can notice that the first time it sounds much wider and more fluid, the second time it is so narrow and strange and it somehow stutters, tough both times the MIDI is perfect out of the piano roll.
How can I make the second one sound like the first one in terms of Quality?

[Echidna]

check your soundcard asio settings, they might be messed up, also check your audio settings for fl, thats all i can think of! Ive never had this sort of problem with any of my hardware