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Death Of A Demon original >>>>>> B-Front Remix
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lilfrenchidiot wrote:Death Of A Demon original >>>>>> B-Front Remix
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Gommes_ wrote:Tracks by Phuture Noize age horribly.
In general most of all electronic music age horribly, there are tracks that i loved from all producers back then but now i forgot some and when i listen again i question myself why did i even like this xD
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Shodan wrote:
Gommes_ wrote:Tracks by Phuture Noize age horribly.
In general most of all electronic music age horribly
not true at all imo. I still listen to hardstyle and trance from ~2001 - 2010 on regular basis and imo most of that stuff is dozen times better then nowadays stuff [/hipstermode]
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ceero wrote:not true at all imo. I still listen to hardstyle and trance from ~2001 - 2010 on regular basis and imo most of that stuff is dozen times better then nowadays stuff [/hipstermode]
I also do listen to old and even older 80s stuff, i don't know, it's just the feeling i get about the technical limitations or sound design of each decade

Note that i'm not saying all oldies are trash, there are timeless gems and forgettable tunes each year so that's just taste
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I think it really depends. I would agree that some of the 2007-2010 nu-style indeed sounds like thrash (and while we are in the unpopular opinions thread, i'm gonna say that some of it deserved to get bashed back then). The early Wasted Penguinz releases on Scantraxx for example. But sounding like thrash in the terms of nowadays production standards does not necessarily mean the music itself is bad. It's just produced in a different way and I would even say that there are tons of problems with nowadays production 'standards' I personally much, MUCH prefer a track which has soul, unique vibe, atmosphere, that production wise sounds outdated in 2021 to a hollow, overproduced, 4x15sec drops track from 2021. There is shit ton of stuff from 80s where the production/mastering levels are corresponding to the technology/standards of the 80s, yet it sounds better then modern stuff. You would have to be insane to claim that Metallica's Death Magnetic sounds better then The Black Album, even tho there is a 20 years technological difference. Another example - shit ton of black metal classics that defined the genre in the late 80s and early 90s sound like complete shit. And noone who is into black metal complains about it, because that's just part of that music, that's the vibe of it, re-recording that stuff in a shiny new studio would make that stuff loose it's magic.

And on the other hand I would argue that there are tons of early productions that sound fucking great nowadays, some even better then stuff produced today. 2006ish saifam stuff for example. Louder does not always mean better production ;)
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Of course it depends, no rule applies to everything and my opinion doesn't apply to every track, i understand the limitations as i mentioned, also another fact is that most producers learnt along the way of each release, so each year they get better, top production isn't linked to a good track anyway, again, taste.

Metal is a different thing as the core of it is to be counter culture right? so the low budget on early albums is also understandable, they wouldn't have done proffesional mix even if they had the chance to, harshness is part of it

Don't know and don't really care, but i question myself if some of those old tracks get remastered to make them stereo and polished would lift, ruin or really change the soul in them, we may never know, just consider it, but that's another topic i'm not aware or know about lol

Yes, there's old stuff that sound good today, again, timeless classics and no, i didnt said louder=better, have you heard last Synthsoldier track? you can tell it's 2009 in it's core but a clean 2021 production and yet it is not a good track for me

I'm no purist or gatekeeper that thinks everything has to be done in a "shiny studio", it's just the feeling i get with most electronic music, not just hardstyle, trance, house, but rap, trap, pop and so on
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ceero wrote:I think it really depends. I would agree that some of the 2007-2010 nu-style indeed sounds like thrash (and while we are in the unpopular opinions thread, i'm gonna say that some of it deserved to get bashed back then). The early Wasted Penguinz releases on Scantraxx for example. But sounding like thrash in the terms of nowadays production standards does not necessarily mean the music itself is bad. It's just produced in a different way and I would even say that there are tons of problems with nowadays production 'standards' I personally much, MUCH prefer a track which has soul, unique vibe, atmosphere, that production wise sounds outdated in 2021 to a hollow, overproduced, 4x15sec drops track from 2021.


Fully agree to that. What I was trying to say is that releases by Phuture Noize always sounded kinda flat when they came out and it is even more audible today. And that only comes down to the way Phuture Noize produces.

Stuff by Donkey Rollers or some Showtek releases still sound good. And other productions from other genres like what ATB used to do sound good as well. It just does not apply to Phuture Noize. Just listen to "Phuture Noize - Chaos & Order (MYST Remix)" and it becomes another story since MYST's way of producing tracks is much more appealing and stands out when comparing it to other tracks from Pursuit of Thunder.
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My DJ Mag vote is probably an unpopular opinion :+

1. Dither
2. Yellow Claw
3. Lil Texas
4. Psycho Boys Club
5. Greazy Puzzy Fuckerz
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lilfrenchidiot wrote:My DJ Mag vote is probably an unpopular opinion :+

1. Dither
2. Yellow Claw
3. Lil Texas
4. Psycho Boys Club
5. Greazy Puzzy Fuckerz
I'm about to report this post :+

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