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Re: Explaining uptempo?

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I'd say 200 to 300 BPM Hardcore, with a focus on screeches, highly distorded kicks, screeches and a broad range of atmospheres and samples (I'm aware that there is "fun" Terror like Dissoactive, but that's mostly an Uptempo thing imo).

For all the people deeming it as brainless shit, I used to think like that, but there actually is some great Uptempo music, for ex check Chaotic Hostility - First Rule No Rules (Album) :)
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Reverse Ghost wrote:Frenchcore tempo with raw kicks sped up chipmunk style so they lose all power.
Add in a 4 second loop of a classical song for 1.5 minutes followed by a big room house style buildup for another 30 seconds so the militaristic party crowd can show their o-faces to the cameras and the paid actors makeing bassfaces when the beat drops.
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being mostly sarcastic with the last part :+ :+
Looks like you are not a bit fan of uptempo

Could you suggest some hardcore songs or artists that I should listen to? :)

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lilfrenchidiot wrote: For all the people deeming it as brainless shit, I used to think like that, but there actually is some great Uptempo music, for ex check Chaotic Hostility - First Rule No Rules (Album) :)
I think that thought of it being crap was because it the sub genre started out as basically being the same thing over and over again and just felt like it was a copy and paste just for the sake of having a "new" track. Of course, there was always a few good tracks, but it seemed like the majority were like this. It put a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. I even saw a lot of people comparing it to the rawstyle trend back in 2014 when ever track featured the same screech pattern.

Personally, despite usually being open minded and fine with hearing the same thing over and over again as long as there's something different (sound design in this case), it still had a bad taste in my mouth. Like I was going through Neophyte's label at the time this was becoming popular, and every new artist basically sounded the same. I couldn't tell you who made what or even remember what the differences of the songs (except for a few exceptions of course). I haven't listened to much since so I can't say anything about now days.

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Boi wrote:
Reverse Ghost wrote:Frenchcore tempo with raw kicks sped up chipmunk style so they lose all power.
Add in a 4-second loop of a classical song for 1.5 minutes followed by a big room house style buildup for another 30 seconds so the militaristic party crowd can show their o-faces to the cameras and the paid actors making bass faces when the beat drops.
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being mostly sarcastic with the last part :+ :+
Looks like you are not a bit fan of uptempo

Could you suggest some hardcore songs or artists that I should listen to? :)
If you mean uptempo-wise, I'd suggest some new guys like Dimitri K., Major Conspiracy, and Trespassed. Also Cryogenic, Angernoizer, DRS, NSD, and MBk all have defined styles in uptempo.
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Let's forget this new uptempo stuff that many hate. What about older tracks like: Unexist & Tommyknocker - Step into our world, Unexist - Attack (Mad Dog Remix), Nosferatu & Neophyte - Daar zijn we weer.
What are they? Uptempo, frenchcore, terror, may be just different kind of mainstream?

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NS5 wrote:Let's forget this new uptempo stuff that many hate. What about older tracks like Unexist & Tommyknocker - Step into our world, Unexist - Attack (Mad Dog Remix), Nosferatu & Neophyte - Daar zijn we weer.
What are they? Uptempo, Frenchcore, terror, maybe just different kind of mainstream?
Definitely not Frenchcore or terror, you could make a case that they'd fit the uptempo class but I'd say only the bpm would meet that 'requirement'. It doesn't have that overly distorted sound and follows a stronger lead throughout the song (if that makes any sense).

There's a difference between a track being uptempo (faster than usual) and uptempo - the genre. All the tracks you named have been released over ten years ago, so normally I'd say they fit in the millennium era. Maybe just fast millennium.
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NS5 wrote:Let's forget this new uptempo stuff that many hate. What about older tracks like: Unexist & Tommyknocker - Step into our world, Unexist - Attack (Mad Dog Remix), Nosferatu & Neophyte - Daar zijn we weer.
What are they? Uptempo, frenchcore, terror, may be just different kind of mainstream?
Hardcore.
Technically uptempo yes, but waaay different from todays uptempo. ;)

You see, mainstream at high tempo wasn't much of a thing back then, more of an special case.
After "death" of oldschool, producers focused more on harder and slower sounds. There was faster stuff made back then too but it more associated with terror, frenchcore and speedcore.
When rawstyle came along, some listeners wanted harder but faster stuff when hardcore wasn't keeping up. Slowly uptempo became it's own subgenre.

Also one of the reasons it sounded and still sounds amateurish! :+ It's quite an young genre, not too hard to make, takes a lot from hardstyle and rawstyle and was easy money when it hit it's peak!

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So they are not what is called uptempo today. But I believe word 'uptempo' was used as a subgenre name even 10 years ago.
To this day I'm not sure what 2010s uptempo is and which tracks are examples of it. I always thought it doesn't include frenchcore, and it is more like faster and harder mainstream, but I've never been sure.
Other examples of what I'd call uptempo in 2010s would be Andy The Core - Brutal method (I guess it is closer to todays uptempo?), and his earlier stuff like Andy The Core - Murdermind, Lenny Dee & Radium - Voices (Andy The Core Shut Up Remix). Would be that correct?

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Back then uptempo as a term didn't even exist (at least what I know)

The tracks you mentioned are pretty much just mainstream hardcore, but on the harder side. :)
Note that even artists like Unexist, Lenny Dee, Partyraiser etc. were all classified as hardcore, even if their sound was far rougher and sometimes faster than your average producers.

The newer tracks are great examples of when uptempo started to become more regocnisable.

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explaining uptempo?

Frankly it sucks, killed slower hardcore and made mainstream hardcore 15-20bpm higher than it needed to be

how's that for an explanation :rofl: :rofl:
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