It seems like itAmperial wrote:Supremacy is the best raw indoor event bro.Gommes_ wrote:Was Supremacy always that great or did it just make this huge step? Loving the livesets so far.
I really should go there next year...
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I really should go there next year...Make Hardstyle great again
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battlejellyfish
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Why does hardstyle seem to be "on the run", especially rawer tracks? Ofc the tracks get shorter, short time for mid intro, mid outros, but also the many kick changes within one track. Kickrolls trying to increase the tension within the sometimes short 16 or 32 bars long parts with an ongoing kickpattern instead of an slow buildup that rises the heat.
It's nothing that new, as it's common in sets to play a track after another after another, but why is there an overkill. Is it to act against having a monotous raw track with like 1 kick in the midintro - maybe from the early raw stuff, when a heavy kick came without pretty much anything else - and 1 different (if any) in the climax, in the climax. Why add 3,4,5 goofy kicks every 4 bars, why not the heaviest one and some decent screech patterns.
Ofc it's cool when you play some cool tracks that go crazy, but it sounds pretty exhausting in a set, it's even more like a megamix than it's used to be.
As one example Riiho and Mrotek feat. MC Heretik - Fallout handled this pretty well, why did most stuff went into overkill mode? Just to be the craziest and roughest?
It's nothing that new, as it's common in sets to play a track after another after another, but why is there an overkill. Is it to act against having a monotous raw track with like 1 kick in the midintro - maybe from the early raw stuff, when a heavy kick came without pretty much anything else - and 1 different (if any) in the climax, in the climax. Why add 3,4,5 goofy kicks every 4 bars, why not the heaviest one and some decent screech patterns.
Ofc it's cool when you play some cool tracks that go crazy, but it sounds pretty exhausting in a set, it's even more like a megamix than it's used to be.
As one example Riiho and Mrotek feat. MC Heretik - Fallout handled this pretty well, why did most stuff went into overkill mode? Just to be the craziest and roughest?
Well you kinda answered your own question.Grape wrote:Just to be the craziest and roughest?
It's easier to create rough kicks and kickrolls than a good atmosphere, or better, keep it up through the whole track.
Good examples are Code Black's earlier rawer tracks (F.E.A.R, Noisemaker Remix), Delete's current stuff and early Minus Militia.
You basically summed up the reason why I dont even bother checking most of the new raw stuff anymore. Cant fucking stand what it became in the past 1-2 years.Grape wrote:Why does hardstyle seem to be "on the run", especially rawer tracks? Ofc the tracks get shorter, short time for mid intro, mid outros, but also the many kick changes within one track. Kickrolls trying to increase the tension within the sometimes short 16 or 32 bars long parts with an ongoing kickpattern instead of an slow buildup that rises the heat.
It's nothing that new, as it's common in sets to play a track after another after another, but why is there an overkill. Is it to act against having a monotous raw track with like 1 kick in the midintro - maybe from the early raw stuff, when a heavy kick came without pretty much anything else - and 1 different (if any) in the climax, in the climax. Why add 3,4,5 goofy kicks every 4 bars, why not the heaviest one and some decent screech patterns.
Ofc it's cool when you play some cool tracks that go crazy, but it sounds pretty exhausting in a set, it's even more like a megamix than it's used to be.
As one example Riiho and Mrotek feat. MC Heretik - Fallout handled this pretty well, why did most stuff went into overkill mode? Just to be the craziest and roughest?
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I thought getting into different genres other than hardstyle will lead me to the conclusion that maybe I was just listening to raw hardstyle too much before and coming back to it occasionally will change my mind about the subgenre. But I realized no matter the amount of kick diversity or atmospheres, it's just not appealing and my ears cannot find these new tracks any fresh after a break.
I'm waiting for a new concept to arrive but I think it's not going to change anything dramatically just align to the existing one :/
Edit: I've just found this documentary. Say whatever you want about the guy's productions of the past few years but if the documentaries of Q-Dance/big hardstyle names I've seen so far were half as interesting as this one... But oh well, I guess it's not going to happen.
I'm waiting for a new concept to arrive but I think it's not going to change anything dramatically just align to the existing one :/
Edit: I've just found this documentary. Say whatever you want about the guy's productions of the past few years but if the documentaries of Q-Dance/big hardstyle names I've seen so far were half as interesting as this one... But oh well, I guess it's not going to happen.
Has anyone one of those festicaps & can tell me if it's any good?
https://festicap.eu/en/product/festicap-pro/
https://festicap.eu/en/product/festicap-pro/
Bang Bada Bing Bada BoommmmmThe Convicted wrote:I thought getting into different genres other than hardstyle will lead me to the conclusion that maybe I was just listening to raw hardstyle too much before and coming back to it occasionally will change my mind about the subgenre. But I realized no matter the amount of kick diversity or atmospheres, it's just not appealing and my ears cannot find these new tracks any fresh after a break.
I'm waiting for a new concept to arrive but I think it's not going to change anything dramatically just align to the existing one :/
Edit: I've just found this documentary. Say whatever you want about the guy's productions of the past few years but if the documentaries of Q-Dance/big hardstyle names I've seen so far were half as interesting as this one... But oh well, I guess it's not going to happen.
Waves, Voices, Distorted Noises..
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Also why I'll only ever listen to Raw DJ sets instead of releases and albums.ceero wrote:You basically summed up the reason why I dont even bother checking most of the new raw stuff anymore. Cant fucking stand what it became in the past 1-2 years.Grape wrote:Why does hardstyle seem to be "on the run", especially rawer tracks? Ofc the tracks get shorter, short time for mid intro, mid outros, but also the many kick changes within one track. Kickrolls trying to increase the tension within the sometimes short 16 or 32 bars long parts with an ongoing kickpattern instead of an slow buildup that rises the heat.
It's nothing that new, as it's common in sets to play a track after another after another, but why is there an overkill. Is it to act against having a monotous raw track with like 1 kick in the midintro - maybe from the early raw stuff, when a heavy kick came without pretty much anything else - and 1 different (if any) in the climax, in the climax. Why add 3,4,5 goofy kicks every 4 bars, why not the heaviest one and some decent screech patterns.
Ofc it's cool when you play some cool tracks that go crazy, but it sounds pretty exhausting in a set, it's even more like a megamix than it's used to be.
As one example Riiho and Mrotek feat. MC Heretik - Fallout handled this pretty well, why did most stuff went into overkill mode? Just to be the craziest and roughest?
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Yeah! I've seen many guys around Youtube doing this in different genres, glad to see content like this one
Edit: umm, besides Frontliner's demo time of course
