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How is a kick edit made?

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typhonmusic
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How is a kick edit made?

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How do producers manage to completely remove the original kick from a track without changing anything else?

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Post by Neogenesis »

If Frontliner makes a kick edit of his own track, then it's easy for him - changes the kick essentially. If an artist tries to change a track by someone else then usually they'd try an recreate it - if not, be lucky and find a section in a break without the kick..

i.e. recently, Frequencerz's kick edit of Hyperdrive's 'The Punishiment' - There's a nice clean 8-bar section in the break with the melody in full without a kick or any other sound. Sample, low pass filter, add kick and repeat. Simple. (although in their case it sounds like they put their own synth in during the kick)

You can make a hardstyle edit of a bigroom house track just like that.
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Post by UNIFITE »

It is impossible to completely remove a kick without damaging the rest of the track. A hardstyle kick in particular has important peaks in freq´s that will be impossible to remove from a complete track.

But as mentioned it is possible to get far with a filter, low cutting and layering.

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Post by leeroy »

there is some setting in mixmiester which can remove the kick easily, some people do that, another thing people do is add more layers over the original kick in the track to edit it and make it more fat

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Post by battlejellyfish »

I actually tried it in FL Studio 1,5 years ago with Tuning Into You, not really hard to do. Not the most professional, but still... :)


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leeroy wrote:there is some setting in mixmiester which can remove the kick easily, some people do that, another thing people do is add more layers over the original kick in the track to edit it and make it more fat
It can remove the lower freqs yes, but there is still a long way to go since you have the true mid-identity of the kick in the 5-700 region and higher.

I can also take one of my older kicks that sucked, throw a small low cut in for example a Zatox track and then it will sound banger. But that is not my victory, coz the Zatox mid´s and highs are still there..:)

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Post by MKN »

Yeah I've done it for a few reverse bass edits, it's the same with a kick.

Find a part with just the leads/melody and put in a kick with the right bass notes/pitching. If there's not a clean part without a kick, then I just put a low cut on the track with the kick playing and simply sweep up until you find a nice spot, then EQ as you wish :)

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Post by Musical Madness »

When editting house-tracks you can also try to sidechain the 4/4. Sometimes that work's pretty good aswell as the punch of a house track isn't very long.

For the most tracks: Impossible to remove the original bassdrum. Just work around that :)

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