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Re: Mixdown, Dynamics & EQ (and related) Topic

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ljk32 wrote:That is entirely up to you. It'd depend on the section of the track and the way you'd carry it out (there may be times where you can be very creative with this stuff and times where it may be more 'appropriate', like if you were to have a breakbeat in your track, for example). Generally, Hardstyle doesn't require excessive panning of percussive elements, and it mostly comes down to personal taste. There isn't a right or wrong way to do it, but a snare panned noticeably to the right wouldn't sound ideal in a track.
Now youre talking about panned snares, quite often i hear panned snares or claps in professional tracks, stupid thing if u ask me. Yes, its good to make use of your stereo spectrum but i agree with you a rightpanned snare sounds fucked up. Autopanning isnt a bad choise btw, i kinda often autopan samples:)
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ProspectOfficial wrote:
ljk32 wrote:That is entirely up to you. It'd depend on the section of the track and the way you'd carry it out (there may be times where you can be very creative with this stuff and times where it may be more 'appropriate', like if you were to have a breakbeat in your track, for example). Generally, Hardstyle doesn't require excessive panning of percussive elements, and it mostly comes down to personal taste. There isn't a right or wrong way to do it, but a snare panned noticeably to the right wouldn't sound ideal in a track.
Now youre talking about panned snares, quite often i hear panned snares or claps in professional tracks, stupid thing if u ask me. Yes, its good to make use of your stereo spectrum but i agree with you a rightpanned snare sounds fucked up. Autopanning isnt a bad choise btw, i kinda often autopan samples:)
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Post by Soundphase »

ah cool, didn't know a topic like this existed

It's nice to know what other people do so I want to ask people:

1. On pads, do you use the same reverb as the Leads reverb or do you have a totally seperate reverb dedicated to pads?

2. Do you use a send channel for the lead + pads and choirs or do you only use a send for leads?

3. Do you use any mixer effects to mix down sound fx sounds or do you not assign any mixer effects to sound fx?
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personally I would run leads pads choirs etc thru the same send/return bus. It gives a more natural sound and less mud

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Echidna wrote:personally I would run leads pads choirs etc thru the same send/return bus. It gives a more natural sound and less mud
Plus you can always turn the send of the pads or leads up or down so it doesn't seem to be the same reverb.
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Cardioid wrote:
Echidna wrote:personally I would run leads pads choirs etc thru the same send/return bus. It gives a more natural sound and less mud
Plus you can always turn the send of the pads or leads up or down so it doesn't seem to be the same reverb.
True :) buses are the best way for reverb's imo, plus saves so much cpu too!

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Cardioid wrote:
Echidna wrote:personally I would run leads pads choirs etc thru the same send/return bus. It gives a more natural sound and less mud
Plus you can always turn the send of the pads or leads up or down so it doesn't seem to be the same reverb.
Not to mention that different sounds will have different reverb tails. I agree fully with this. I usually use 2 or 3 sends for reverbs (one 'main' reverb, one big fx reverb and a plate) and then another send for delay.

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Don't know wheter this fits into the thread but as we are already on topic, often I like to automate volumes of for example the fx channels to make some very exciting breaks where everything is silent, or also a simple channel volume automation to bring some sound in or out slowly or whatever but than later when doing the mixdown I have troubles as when I want to adjust the volume of a sound or give more or less reverb to the whole mix the channel faders always stick to the value that the automation clip in the playlist currently has and I need to seek other alternatives for leveling, like for example slowly move the dots in automation clips and that is very tedious and distracts from listenibg to the sound and taking accurate decisions by simply moving the channel faders. How do you go about those things, do you automate the gain knobs (which may affect the processed sound) or do you habe other alternatives? How do you make sure that the mixer works smoothly when mixiñg down? I'm on FL btw ;)

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Post by ljk32 »

Get yourself any sort of gain plugin (preferably one with a large volume range) and stick in on the end of your mixer channel. Instead of automating the mixer level, automate the knob on the gain VST. This allows you to change the overall level of the sound(s), but also keep the automation path the way you'd like it. And since the VST is at the end of the mixer chain, you're not affecting input and therefore not changing the sound if there were things like distortions (or any gain-influenced plugin for that matter) somewhere in the mixer channel.
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Dj Reaper wrote:Don't know wheter this fits into the thread but as we are already on topic, often I like to automate volumes of for example the fx channels to make some very exciting breaks where everything is silent, or also a simple channel volume automation to bring some sound in or out slowly or whatever but than later when doing the mixdown I have troubles as when I want to adjust the volume of a sound or give more or less reverb to the whole mix the channel faders always stick to the value that the automation clip in the playlist currently has and I need to seek other alternatives for leveling, like for example slowly move the dots in automation clips and that is very tedious and distracts from listenibg to the sound and taking accurate decisions by simply moving the channel faders. How do you go about those things, do you automate the gain knobs (which may affect the processed sound) or do you habe other alternatives? How do you make sure that the mixer works smoothly when mixiñg down? I'm on FL btw ;)
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Automate these volume knobs instead. They're seperate from the mixer volume knobs.

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