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The Tek Thread

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The Tek Thread

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Since dropping the jumpstyle/tek release subforum last year I haven't seen a single person here bring up tek. I know a lot of you see it as hardstyle's ugly 150bpm cousin and the scene for it hasn't grown at all since it evolved from jump (became less popular if anything).
Regardless I'm hoping to find a few of you out there that might know a thing or two about the genre or tried their luck at producing some. Outside of harderstate it is rare to find discussions on tek production as well, so I'm hoping this thread might fill the gap.

I have only been experimenting with the genre for a few months and so far have had pretty good results on my screeches and leads as design wise they don't vary too much from hardstyle. If anything I've found those parts even easier than hardstyle seeing as most tek midintros/outros rely more on percussion and layering simpler sounds versus having a massive lead that takes up most of the space by itself.

I have yet to crack making an acceptable sounding tek kick though. I'm starting to figure out some of the key differences between it and a hardstyle kick however and can point out the little bits I do know.

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- First thing would be the bit of space that the hardstyle kick has during the first few milliseconds. This is here to leave room for the punch so that when played together the dynamics stay consistent throughout the whole kick. This didn't sound quite right with the tek kick so I left out the space similar to how hardcore kicks are layered straight onto the punch without this gap in the beginning.
- Second would be the type of distortion. The hardstyle kick has more jagged peaks which give the kick a crunchier sound. Tek kicks seem to lack effects like bitcrusher and xciter which I would say give that crunchier distortion. Instead I relied primarily on tube distortion which results in the kick maintaining a smoother waveform.

I had no outside material or guides to work off of, so my ideas are just from experimenting. Please correct me on anything that is wrong in my design analysis and share your own tips for tek kicks and tek design in general.
Clips would be cool as well!
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Post by Dj Reaper »

Hi, I find this thread very interesting. However I don't really get what you understand by tek. Isn't tek that stuff with goa-trance like kicks and simple offbeat basses (maybe a bit comparable to reverse basses), quite fast and many hats and snares (a bit like in dnb)? Sorry, I am not such a genere-freak so correct me if I am wrong, but if it is that kind of music I think (what I like but am not a lot into) than what have those kicks in common with Hardstyle kicks?

Would be nice to post an example of a for you tipical tek-track so I (and maybe also others) know what you are talking about. If it is the genere I think, than yes I tried to make some, but nothing complex..but I'll try sooner or later again and maybe share some tips, if not than...yes my post is awkward and I'll check it out and maybe if i know something I'll tell :)

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Post by Statical »

Dj Reaper wrote:Hi, I find this thread very interesting. However I don't really get what you understand by tek. Isn't tek that stuff with goa-trance like kicks and simple offbeat basses (maybe a bit comparable to reverse basses), quite fast and many hats and snares (a bit like in dnb)? Sorry, I am not such a genere-freak so correct me if I am wrong, but if it is that kind of music I think (what I like but am not a lot into) than what have those kicks in common with Hardstyle kicks?

Would be nice to post an example of a for you typical tek-track so I (and maybe also others) know what you are talking about. If it is the genere I think, than yes I tried to make some, but nothing complex..but I'll try sooner or later again and maybe share some tips, if not than...yes my post is awkward and I'll check it out and maybe if i know something I'll tell :)
Glad your interested Reaper. Tek has a similar structure to hardstyle and the main difference really is the kick design as well as the focus on more minimal sounds and layers of percussion rather than wide supersaw leads. Still 150bpm. I think you may be thinking of frenchcore with your description. (190ish reverse bass).

For those that haven't heard much Tek here are a few tracks that I think show off the style pretty well



So as you can see by the labeling, the words jumpstyle and tek are still used interchangeably. So I could have said jumpstyle even though the kick has changed a ton within last half decade (similar to saying rawstyle in place of hardstyle for some tracks).

Biggest labels for it right now are Crunk'D, Noise Junky, and Dirty Workz Bounce.
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Post by Reverse Ghost »

Dj Reaper wrote:Hi, I find this thread very interesting. However I don't really get what you understand by tek. Isn't tek that stuff with goa-trance like kicks and simple offbeat basses (maybe a bit comparable to reverse basses), quite fast and many hats and snares (a bit like in dnb)?
You're thinking of Tekno/Hardtek, which is completely different and was more popular among other countries outside of Germany and Netherlands, and sounds more along the lines of Frenchcore, Hardcore, Psytrance, and Dark Psy.

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Post by Dj Reaper »

Yes I think I thought about hardtek, it has similarities to the other styles you listed. And I am surr it is not frenchcore as I am quite into it and can distinguish it. Btw the last track statical posted has the same vocals as a quite nice frenchcore track.;)

About the genere and te kicks. I think the kicks are very simple and sound a bit like unfinished hardstyle kicks. i think I could make them with one instance of Sylenth and maybe one overdrive plugin.
The structure is indeed like hardstyle but as for the sounds and sounddesign I prefer Hardstyle.
Bur maybe I will try to make some tek one day if I feel like and than I'll post what I found difficult/challenging and maybe other interesting stuff. And thanks for the explaination :)

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