Did you know? (Producers Facts)

[Taperecorder]

Did you know that you can widen a bit up sound is stereo field by cloning the sound putting it 1-3 ms later than first sound and then putting this second sound into the different mixer channel. Then you pan first channel on left and second channel on right. Values of panning should be quite high to avoid clipping and that I dunno hiw to say it phaser effect?

A easier way to do this in FL Studio, is to use the "StereoShaper" plugin, that comes with FL Studio

[MRK]

Not everybody use FL Studio so your argument is invalid There are several ways to widen up your sound. You can use Hass effect, you can use some stereo controllers. But IMO it's nice when you do it manually you've got better control

[Taperecorder]

Not everybody use FL Studio so your argument is invalid There are several ways to widen up your sound. You can use Hass effect, you can use some stereo controllers. But IMO it's nice when you do it manually you've got better control

What the ???? why are my argument invalid? I just wrote that there is a easier way to do this in FL studio (for people using FL Studio). I didn't say that you its the best way or something? Sorry for giving people knowledge MRK.

[Marcotjuh]

mda Stereo is a nice free vst plugin for sampledelay/stereomaking
Logic has its own buildin Sample Delay

[thesh3ll]

did you know that i make my kicks starting from white-noise and sine waves

[audiofreq]

Did you know that a pair of studio monitors may even be the worst reference material out there? As your average listener doesn't own studio monitors, it's much more important that your mix sounds good on an average system

Good post right there

This is terrible advice.

Studio monitors are not meant to make the music sound good, they are meant to sound accurate so you can spot problems in the mixdown. This is why companies aim to get the flattest and uncoloured sounding monitors possible, its for accuracy and clarity.

Not only that, hardstyle is club/festival music. An 'average system' will not tell you if a kick with a fundamental at 60Hz has too much 120Hz or not enough or if the following harmonics are too quiet or need to be emphasized. Things might look right on a scope, but not sound or feel right and this is where a producer would rely on their tools - good monitors. A hardstyle producer needs to accurately hear these frequencies for a tight and punchy mix that will translate well to different environments. Not to mention the 400Hz-1kHz region can be a huge problem too.

Studio monitors are tools for accuracy not to make things sound good so that what you do with those tools will translate well to all environments, not just sound good for the average listener.

What is just as important as good monitors that is often overlooked - is a good room thats been well treated. If you save up and spend a thousand dollars/euro/pounds/rubles on great speakers but your control room is an echoy box with terrible room modes, you've just wasted your money.

[Taperecorder]

Did you know that a pair of studio monitors may even be the worst reference material out there? As your average listener doesn't own studio monitors, it's much more important that your mix sounds good on an average system

Good post right there

This is terrible advice.

Studio monitors are not meant to make the music sound good, they are meant to sound accurate so you can spot problems in the mixdown. This is why companies aim to get the flattest and uncoloured sounding monitors possible, its for accuracy and clarity.

Not only that, hardstyle is club/festival music. An 'average system' will not tell you if a kick with a fundamental at 60Hz has too much 120Hz or not enough or if the following harmonics are too quiet or need to be emphasized. Things might look right on a scope, but not sound or feel right and this is where a producer would rely on their tools - good monitors. A hardstyle producer needs to accurately hear these frequencies for a tight and punchy mix that will translate well to different environments. Not to mention the 400Hz-1kHz region can be a huge problem too.

Studio monitors are tools for accuracy not to make things sound good so that what you do with those tools will translate well to all environments, not just sound good for the average listener.

What is just as important as good monitors that is often overlooked - is a good room thats been well treated. If you save up and spend a thousand dollars/euro/pounds/rubles on great speakers but your control room is an echoy box with terrible room modes, you've just wasted your money.

Can't stop wonder why you advice people to go listen to your new 2.0 track in a car, to get the right feeling of the kick then? Whatever, I still think that it's really important that you check your mix on more than just your studio monitors. Some people seems to forget that things may sound different from room to room and system to system. Especially thinking of the stereo image. Many people widen their sounds alot and it might sound right in their studio, but like crap, especially in headphones and big systems. (btw thats what love about your mix in your new tracks. They have a nice width)

But yeah, maybe it a bad advice to say that studio monitors might be the worst reference, but still - just checking a mixdown on your studio monitors, is in my opinion not enough

[Crankx]

Good post right there

This is terrible advice.

Studio monitors are not meant to make the music sound good, they are meant to sound accurate so you can spot problems in the mixdown. This is why companies aim to get the flattest and uncoloured sounding monitors possible, its for accuracy and clarity.

Not only that, hardstyle is club/festival music. An 'average system' will not tell you if a kick with a fundamental at 60Hz has too much 120Hz or not enough or if the following harmonics are too quiet or need to be emphasized. Things might look right on a scope, but not sound or feel right and this is where a producer would rely on their tools - good monitors. A hardstyle producer needs to accurately hear these frequencies for a tight and punchy mix that will translate well to different environments. Not to mention the 400Hz-1kHz region can be a huge problem too.

Studio monitors are tools for accuracy not to make things sound good so that what you do with those tools will translate well to all environments, not just sound good for the average listener.

What is just as important as good monitors that is often overlooked - is a good room thats been well treated. If you save up and spend a thousand dollars/euro/pounds/rubles on great speakers but your control room is an echoy box with terrible room modes, you've just wasted your money.

Can't stop wonder why you advice people to go listen to your new 2.0 track in a car, to get the right feeling of the kick then? Whatever, I still think that it's really important that you check your mix on more than just your studio monitors. Some people seems to forget that things may sound different from room to room and system to system. Especially thinking of the stereo image. Many people widen their sounds alot and it might sound right in their studio, but like crap, especially in headphones and big systems. (btw thats what love about your mix in your new tracks. They have a nice width)

But yeah, maybe it a bad advice to say that studio monitors might be the worst reference, but still - just checking a mixdown on your studio monitors, is in my opinion not enough

If you have some quality studio monitors, and a perfectly treated room, you should in most cases be able to trust your monitors (In the way, that you know this will sound good even on the laptop speaker). Ofc a couple of Krk RP6's in a untreated bedroom, won't be 100 % trustworthy and therefore it's good to reference test on other systems. But a lot of it also comes from experience and knowledge, trained ears etc.

[R3cl41m3r]

Just editing this one out so more people don't read this.

[Mind Mayhem]

Did you know that a pair of studio monitors may even be the worst reference material out there? As your average listener doesn't own studio monitors, it's much more important that your mix sounds good on an average system

Good post right there

This is terrible advice.

Studio monitors are not meant to make the music sound good, they are meant to sound accurate so you can spot problems in the mixdown. This is why companies aim to get the flattest and uncoloured sounding monitors possible, its for accuracy and clarity.

Not only that, hardstyle is club/festival music. An 'average system' will not tell you if a kick with a fundamental at 60Hz has too much 120Hz or not enough or if the following harmonics are too quiet or need to be emphasized. Things might look right on a scope, but not sound or feel right and this is where a producer would rely on their tools - good monitors. A hardstyle producer needs to accurately hear these frequencies for a tight and punchy mix that will translate well to different environments. Not to mention the 400Hz-1kHz region can be a huge problem too.

Studio monitors are tools for accuracy not to make things sound good so that what you do with those tools will translate well to all environments, not just sound good for the average listener.

What is just as important as good monitors that is often overlooked - is a good room thats been well treated. If you save up and spend a thousand dollars/euro/pounds/rubles on great speakers but your control room is an echoy box with terrible room modes, you've just wasted your money.

This, my friends, is THE advice we have all been searching for. Flat frequency response monitors are your ideal set of speakers, not your 30 euro/pound earphones/computer speakers. It's already hard getting your kick or lead to sound nice, tight, rich and full with a good set of monitors in a well-treated (acoustically) environment, how is using a low priced, inferior quality sounding set of speakers going to help you any more?
Having said that, I do understand what everyone says about testing your track on different speakers and electronic devices, but this should be done afterwards and as a secondary thing. What you obtain from listening on all these different speaker systems is your final fine-tuning of the various elements, but definitely not to be done from the start.

Tip that was given to me from my Audio Engineering professor: Did you know that another way of finding any faults in your track is to listen to it outside your room, closing the door behind you. Take for example a vocal, if it stands out too much or too little you know that you have to change some of its settings and so on. Again, this is a tip and can be seen as totally subjective, but just wanted to give you the heads up anyways