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TheRavestyler
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Re: Improving the loudness of a track?

Post by TheRavestyler »

Brickwall Limiter, if right Mixed It Will Pump Up ur Track.
anyways im really into Brickwall Limiters if u need to Make ur Track Loud Fast or for a Precise Mastering.
btw Good Mixdown + Izotope Ozone 5 With Right Settings = Nice Result.
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Thanks, thought it had something to do with that. Still seems like magic to me!
And yeah the volume knob on a mixer fixes the problem but I would still love being able to play the track without having to turn the volume up. Training I guess!

And will try some of the limiter/compressor suggestions :)
I'm still lost in the world of mixing a production so that'll be a guess.
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Post by The Void »

Just remember not to limit the track too much or it will sound bad. The louder you make the track the less dynamic range your track will have so it's a sacrifice of loudness for dynamic range or range for loudness.

Having a clean Mixdown will let you boost the volume more as well.

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Post by ljk32 »

AftershoQ.Music wrote:A mixed down track should be between -6db & -4db before goin' to mastering.
It doesn't matter where it's at, as long as there is some headroom, the values don't need to be so strict.

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Post by MRK »

And the more sub you'll have the less volume the track will have. I heard also about -3 dB on peaks but as @ljk32 it doesn't really matter as far as you have some headroom for master engineer.

And I don't understand why nobody said about clippers they're the best to bring up the volume but you have to remember that the more gain reduction you'll get the less dynamic track will be. So I would leave the track as loud as you have and try to get signed then the master engineer will look after your loudness in tracks to :)

Once I got in peaks 0 dB just like in Bolivia or other professional tracks or 14 dB in peaks in K-meter (if anyone is using it), but only once. It depends on compression, EQuing and other mastering shit.
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MRK wrote:And the more sub you'll have the less volume the track will have.
Really? I didn't know about this, i though that if sub was present the entire track volume didn't affect (well not more then usual i mean) because most part is simply higher frequencies... like a perfect balance ?

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i kind of sympathize with the topic starter, i have the same problem aswell, especially notice it when i play my own tunes on the deck... they sound much less on volume, but in the sequencer it's already at its limit (-3 DB)
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Shadow Interaction wrote:they sound much less on volume, but in the sequencer it's already at its limit (-3 DB)
Do you export the final version of your tracks at -3dB? If you do, of course they're gonna sound quiet in comparison to other tracks.

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ljk32 wrote:
Shadow Interaction wrote:they sound much less on volume, but in the sequencer it's already at its limit (-3 DB)
Do you export the final version of your tracks at -3dB? If you do, of course they're gonna sound quiet in comparison to other tracks.
Well yea if i need to mixdown to -3 DB and theres no option to turn it louder in the export settings then i have no choice. Turning it up louder in the sequencer will kill the mix... Though i can push up the master volume (figured out it somehow doesn't affect the song itself? Only the overal volume)
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Post by tek-noize »

One thing is the peak value (in dB), and another is the RMS value (in dB too) of a track.
The peak marks the maximum volume value of the track, although this maximum only lasts one or two milliseconds, and the rest of the track is 5 dB less. RMS marks the average volume of the whole track, regardless volume peaks of the track.
Maybe a track could have a 0dB peak volumen, but his RMS is -6dB, that is what makes the track "loudless".
Voxengo Anspec & SPAN can marks the peaks and RMS of a track ;D
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Post by SCH »

Tek-noize: No peak should ever reach over -3 db.
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