Mixdown, Dynamics & EQ (and related) Topic

[Euphorizer]

Just a reply to what Darycka said in that other thread. Yes 30 HZ costs you a lot of headroom, and you won't probably be able to hear/feel it. BUT! When the song's played at a live festival, you'll definitely want that 30 HZ in your kick, because the distance the soundwave has got to travel is probably 30 or 40 times longer than it does your studio. So maybe you won't need it in a studio or for homelistening, but definitely when it's played at a festival.

But yeah, the kick probably covers the entire spectrum as what Zanshi said. =)

No, you still don't want those 30 hz. It's not worth it. You can go as far as to do the cut at 20hz though.

[andyhuynh]

@TheRavestyler In all honesty, I'm only trying to help You really should cut the lows on your lead, or they'll affect with your kick. And by the way, there's a lot of things which could've caused that low, like a low quality rip or smth...

i know that u try to help so do i, but still im kinda confused and i just said what i saw
btw The Analyze is From Atmozfears - Limitless (320kbit file , Free release from Atmozfears).
another maybe stupid question with cut u mean to cut them all Away that u cant see the frequency anymore or just do for example a -24db/oct lowcut ?

Yeah, Darycka is right. 30hz is way too low to cut. And yeah, there will still be some frequency content at about 50hz from a lead, but it will be at a much lower volume compared to the rest of the lead. With Fabfilter, which I assume you use, I can make a 48db cut all the way at 100hz, and there will still be some frequencies playing at 50hz or so. As long as it sounds good. And same with the kicks, you can make them stereo if you like, but 200hz and lower must be mono.

And damn this topic, like, why do people have set approaches of doing things? For example, the op boosting 4db on the high end of his leads? You don't have to use set formulas. But besides that, the most frustrating thing to see is the questions about making the track louder. Firstly, why the hell are people eqing the master channel? If you wanted some more clarity, do it during the mix. A good master comes from a good mix and a good master = volume.. Do not worry at all about the level of your tracks until you have a good sounding mixdown.

Last bit is not entirely true. EQ-ing on the master channel is acceptable but should be very subtle. Subtle cuts around 20hz or so since those frequencies are inaudible to the human ear anyway

[ljk32]

i know that u try to help so do i, but still im kinda confused and i just said what i saw
btw The Analyze is From Atmozfears - Limitless (320kbit file , Free release from Atmozfears).
another maybe stupid question with cut u mean to cut them all Away that u cant see the frequency anymore or just do for example a -24db/oct lowcut ?

Yeah, Darycka is right. 30hz is way too low to cut. And yeah, there will still be some frequency content at about 50hz from a lead, but it will be at a much lower volume compared to the rest of the lead. With Fabfilter, which I assume you use, I can make a 48db cut all the way at 100hz, and there will still be some frequencies playing at 50hz or so. As long as it sounds good. And same with the kicks, you can make them stereo if you like, but 200hz and lower must be mono.

And damn this topic, like, why do people have set approaches of doing things? For example, the op boosting 4db on the high end of his leads? You don't have to use set formulas. But besides that, the most frustrating thing to see is the questions about making the track louder. Firstly, why the hell are people eqing the master channel? If you wanted some more clarity, do it during the mix. A good master comes from a good mix and a good master = volume.. Do not worry at all about the level of your tracks until you have a good sounding mixdown.

Last bit is not entirely true. EQ-ing on the master channel is acceptable but should be very subtle. Subtle cuts around 20hz or so since those frequencies are inaudible to the human ear anyway

What 20hz should be cut completely. Any other boosts on the master, regardless of how subtle they are, could have been done in the mix.

[andyhuynh]

Yeah, Darycka is right. 30hz is way too low to cut. And yeah, there will still be some frequency content at about 50hz from a lead, but it will be at a much lower volume compared to the rest of the lead. With Fabfilter, which I assume you use, I can make a 48db cut all the way at 100hz, and there will still be some frequencies playing at 50hz or so. As long as it sounds good. And same with the kicks, you can make them stereo if you like, but 200hz and lower must be mono.

And damn this topic, like, why do people have set approaches of doing things? For example, the op boosting 4db on the high end of his leads? You don't have to use set formulas. But besides that, the most frustrating thing to see is the questions about making the track louder. Firstly, why the hell are people eqing the master channel? If you wanted some more clarity, do it during the mix. A good master comes from a good mix and a good master = volume.. Do not worry at all about the level of your tracks until you have a good sounding mixdown.

Last bit is not entirely true. EQ-ing on the master channel is acceptable but should be very subtle. Subtle cuts around 20hz or so since those frequencies are inaudible to the human ear anyway

What 20hz should be cut completely. Any other boosts on the master, regardless of how subtle they are, could have been done in the mix.

but who cares? if it sounds good then it sounds good. who cares of people boost on the master?

[ljk32]

People who want nice sounding tracks do. It can't be assumed that, for example, boosting the highs slightly will benefit every single instrument/synth in the track, some may need it, some may not. That's why it's a much better idea to go into the mix and only boost or cut what you think is needed.

[D-Verze]

What Lucas says it true, if you boost, lets say, high frequencies on your master, then every single sound on your track will have these frequencies boosted, whereas some sounds may not need this boost. The fact that you do boost them will cost you headroom, which will end up in a mastered version which either has less volume or less dynamics (depends on the choice the mastering engineer makes).

[A Freak Of Hardstyle]

Hey guys, i'm relatively new to producing and im a complete rookie when it comes to the technical stuff, and lately i've wanted to know the technical side of Equing, everyone talks about frequencies and i cant find any topics that give basics about it, up until now ive been doing everything by ear. sorry if this sounds like a really stupid question, but i feel it is something i need to know. thanks.

[TheRavestyler]

http://www.boyinaband.com/2010/04/5-eqi ... s-clearer/

http://www.crazypellas.net/producer-tal ... ing-53269/
This one are actually good.
U always need to find The "Sweet Spot" of the sounds u are eqing , that it sounds well balanced.
btw How about google , there are more than 1000+ tuts how to eq and read frequencys.

[A Freak Of Hardstyle]

Thanks heaps :B

[R3cl41m3r]

On most EQs, the frequency sliders are ordered lowest to highest. Think of it like low=bass to high=treble. Hope that helps.