Mixdown, Dynamics & EQ (and related) Topic

[andyhuynh]

Well honestly, I don't think you should be following so many 'rules' when it comes to production. I mean, if it sounds good then it sounds good. However:

@TheRaveStyler the low end could possibly be from some kind of pad thats sublayered under the lead that's not that much audible. And I don't think you should be boosting any low end on any leads because it would clash with your kick. However, you shouldn't cut out the low ends up to 48dB either because then your lead will start to lose dynamic and warmth & it'll sound really plastic or thin.

[Colorblind]

So i got a question on the frequency range of like say a kick. Can someone tell me the ranges startin from the sub all the way across to the highs? Like whats the estimated numbers of each range so i could eq it all sepperately?

[ljk32]

It depends on where the cutting is taking place. Basically all my leads are cut at 48dB. I know my leads aren't amazing, but I know for sure that the cut doesn't cause a plastic, thin lead. Obviously though, if you were to do a sharp cut at like 200hz, your lead would generally lack a lot of power.

[ljk32]

What? I'm not sure what you are asking. But dude, every kick is different.

[zanshi]

a kick usually covers the entire spectrum...
ofc it's heavy in the bass and sub, but wtf, basically the bands are the same for everything...
e.g presence and sub don't just shift around haha.

[zanshi]

btw guys, how about we have 'a big merge' again....there's a lot of topics like these lately

[DANNYD]

a kick usually covers the entire spectrum...

I think thats the whole point of why he's asking. Like what range the subbass is, or the punch for example.

In another topic i sort of asked the same. This was the reply i got:

As for the punch, the power of it is mostly found around 100Hz, the power of the tokky part is mostly around 500 Hz. Then ofcourse, you do have to add proper amounts of the other frequencies, but this really depends on the kick you made...
As for the bass parts, the sublayer is usually around 60Hz. Again, the power of the midrange is around 500Hz, also boosting your bass at 500Hz before distorting it gives it the commonly known crunchy sound.

Edit, also be sure to add a low cut around 30HZ to your kick and bass, since these frequencies mostly add nothing to your kick but do cost you lots of headroom

[Cardioid]

Just a reply to what Darycka said in that other thread. Yes 30 HZ costs you a lot of headroom, and you won't probably be able to hear/feel it. BUT! When the song's played at a live festival, you'll definitely want that 30 HZ in your kick, because the distance the soundwave has got to travel is probably 30 or 40 times longer than it does your studio. So maybe you won't need it in a studio or for homelistening, but definitely when it's played at a festival.

But yeah, the kick probably covers the entire spectrum as what Zanshi said. =)

[Colorblind]

a kick usually covers the entire spectrum...

I think thats the whole point of why he's asking. Like what range the subbass is, or the punch for example.

In another topic i sort of asked the same. This was the reply i got:

As for the punch, the power of it is mostly found around 100Hz, the power of the tokky part is mostly around 500 Hz. Then ofcourse, you do have to add proper amounts of the other frequencies, but this really depends on the kick you made...
As for the bass parts, the sublayer is usually around 60Hz. Again, the power of the midrange is around 500Hz, also boosting your bass at 500Hz before distorting it gives it the commonly known crunchy sound.

Edit, also be sure to add a low cut around 30HZ to your kick and bass, since these frequencies mostly add nothing to your kick but do cost you lots of headroom

this is what i wanted to know, like around what hertz does each element stand, like he said the sub is around 60hz , punch around 100, tokk around 500....

[SCH]

Another aspect of cutting at 60 Hz apart from cleaning up your mixdown alot is that most PA systems doesn't go lower so having it cut at 60 Hz makes it far more listenable live then having a bunch of frequencies in the kick that aren't audible live.

Source: DJ Hidden @ GHF in the TOA Q&A.