'heavy' vocals question

[Shadow Interaction]

Can someone tell me what kind of effect/vst producers like headhunterz, donkey rollers and hardstyle mafia use to get their vocals so deep and grudgy?

regular vocoders don't give me the result i desire

[D-Verze]

Take your vocals, load them into a granulizer and play them on a lower note.
This way you lower your vocals, without changing their actual length. Playing more notes at the same time could work as well.
Then add some effects, chorus, distortion, lots of eq'ing of course, and you should get something near what you want...

I don't know if the pros do it this way as well, but you can reach the effect this way

[Subject Zero]

Was wondering this too, i'll try using that method Rick since i've had some cool sounds after loading my synth/screech samples into a Granulizer

I have a cool vocal sample from Mass Effect 2, but the voice is too plain and like Pithune mentioned, Vocoders haven't been successful for me either

[Lifterz]

or just record vocals and use a pitch shifter plugin, add some reverb so its nice and deep and some delay,then you can eq it, add other fx...

[SCH]

Well, if you want one that sounds more naturally dark, the best naturalstarting point would be a dark voice, and if you can't access that, a good, smooth pitch shifting plugin helps

[RadianceOfficial]

hmmm try a KT granulator or Madshifta, they give nice effects if they used right.

[Pavilon]

here a try with the granulizer, chorus & ohmice

[Shadow Interaction]

Madshifta

nice one, just tried it out... will be useful for synths!

[thesh3ll]

ohmicide - heady said in a ustream that he uses that on vocals afaik, chorus, some sort of pitchshifter in logic

[IAmShepherd]

Well basically it's not that hard, everybody here is saying some good stuff, like using a good pitch shifter (madshifta, Kontakt5, ...), chorus and using distortion on top of it (Ohmicide & Izotope trash is what I used). Like when you are working with a kick, you want to find that sweet spot, that nice crunchy layer to put on top of your vocal and you can achieve that with good EQ & Distortion. When you have found that sweet spot, it's just a matter of mixing the vocal down properly and placing a gate filter on top, which ISN'T quantized, otherwise it will feel unnatural.

I've created this voice with the help of my father who is a professional vocal artist, so that helps of course. I just placed about 10-15 effects on his voice and got that Qlimax result (kind off). But to show it to you guys I've just placed the effects on my voice while saying: 'Constructing a raw Kick'. It sounds a lot better on his voice though, but if you like this, I could make a tutorial if you want.