Define 'hard'

[icey]

And surely on a big system is where it matters isn't it??

Ehm no.

Which is the hardest track in your opinion then from the 2 samples i've put?

[Dakpan]

And surely on a big system is where it matters isn't it??

Ehm no.

Which is the hardest track in your opinion then from the 2 samples i've put?

I'm with you regarding Doggystyle and Raw Style but I disagree about your argument about the big systems. Like how many % of your listening time you spend in clubs? I rather have my tracks sound good at home/on the road and meh in clubs then vice versa.

[icey]

What I meant was you can understand the proper meaning of a hard track on big systems better thats all

[Dakpan]

What I meant was you can understand the proper meaning of a hard track on big systems better thats all

Ah like that. Well, you don't need club speakers to hear that Doggystyle is harder.

[icey]

What I meant was you can understand the proper meaning of a hard track on big systems better thats all

Ah like that. Well, you don't need club speakers to hear that Doggystyle is harder.

Tell that to rigz

[rigz]

haha

i agree that gated kick have more drive, so more maybe more powerfull ( = power hard ? ), anyway, i was speaking of the lead & the kick only. For the complete track, the general atmosphere etc, doggystyle is harder indeed

[Geck-o]

while i might like big, deep, throbbing dongs with screeches, someone else might required a gated kick and screeches, while another might require a reverse bass with screeches to define it as hard.

But in all cases, screeches are needed?

[Defiant]

[Matt]

For me, Hard is a track with a gloomy atmosphere, industrial sounds & distorsion. Reverse bass and raw screeches.

/topic

[hostage]

hardness is all about deep sounds and basslines + eventually creepy atmospheres. It goes for any EDM genre.

but when nowadays hardstyle is trying to be hard, its all about randomness and plastic kicks/wall of bass to me.