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Having trouble creating melodies that flow

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Xenophase
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Having trouble creating melodies that flow

Post by Xenophase »

So lately I have been having a lot of trouble trying to create melodies that flow and sound good. I've look at a lot of midi's of songs like Red Planet and it looks like it doesn't even use chord progression.
(Honestly I don't really know what chord progression is really. My take on it is if you had C Minor you would the notes out of that to create the bass notes/chords and then build the melody from there)
Has anyone got any tips for me? Also I tried reading up on chord progression on Musictheory.net but it is really confusing to me with all this I,IV,V stuff and I basically have little music knowledge.

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Post by Shadow Interaction »

the most important thing about melodies is that you feel them. without a feel, you can be assured that its either technicly wrong or doesn't have much soul in it.
i don't really know much about melodies either but when I create them, I know when i'm going wrong and where.
but knowing technical issues can be learned, for example training in hearing "false" notes

three melodies i made, in 1 track
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Post by ljk32 »

Shadow Interaction wrote:the most important thing about melodies is that you feel them. without a feel, you can be assured that its either technicly wrong or doesn't have much soul in it.
i don't really know much about melodies either but when I create them, I know when i'm going wrong and where.
but knowing technical issues can be learned, for example training in hearing "false" notes

three melodies i made, in 1 track
Advertising your track doesn't help at all - he has heard a melody before.

But yeah, OP, what Shadow Interaction said is right. It appears that you are putting too much focus into whether something is in key, or if it follows a particular progression. Try to ignore keeping within a scale, or any rules for that matter and just make what you think sounds good. There are a lot of melodies that have notes outside of their scale. If you just go by simply how something sounds, it'll easier to recognise if it's good or not. If something doesn't work, you can always just adjust it, and by trying to stick to a particular guideline, you'll just frustrate yourself. Just listen to what you're doing rather than analysing it's progression and key.

And no, I'm note trying to ignore the importance of theory - I'm simply saying that not paying attention to it can help some people to more easily focus on making something they enjoy, as a lot of people have this idea that their melodies have to be structured in a particular way and notes can never play outside of a scale.

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Post by Shadow Interaction »

ljk32 wrote:Advertising your track doesn't help at all - he has heard a melody before.
I was mearly showing a recent track of mine, since I do follow my own advice. That that track happened to be the only recent I got online, is coincidence
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Post by A Freak Of Hardstyle »

One thing I've always been told is that music theory is really just a guide, and that you shouldn't let it come before creativity. So pretty much what everyone else is saying, don't try to focus so much on the technical side as it can limit your creativity.
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Post by Harha »

A Freak Of Hardstyle wrote:One thing I've always been told is that music theory is really just a guide, and that you shouldn't let it come before creativity. So pretty much what everyone else is saying, don't try to focus so much on the technical side as it can limit your creativity.
I think you just explained me how to solve my problem considering melody composition as well. Fuck the rules, I'll try going beyond the chosen scale for once. :D

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A Freak Of Hardstyle wrote:One thing I've always been told is that music theory is really just a guide, and that you shouldn't let it come before creativity. So pretty much what everyone else is saying, don't try to focus so much on the technical side as it can limit your creativity.
Yep..
Rule number 1: There are no rules in audio..
Rule number 2: See rule number one...
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