I was a bit incautious by saying "the label, the artist you would expect the least" but yeah, the tracks I've heard on Barong were far from this stuffDelacour_Music wrote: Ive been following PBC since the beginning and that's actually the style I expect them to do but I understand your point. But tbh what you're mentionning is actually part of a bigger problem: Hardstyle artists are too scared of releasing something that isnt real Hardstyle because a small part of the community is toxic. I actually believe this is one of the reasons why MYST is quitting or why some artists took a break back in 2014.
I wish artists would just ignore these toxic fans and just release whatever they want, be it dnb, trance or pure hardstyle
And also it's not necessarily true that no one in the scene does something like that - Thera is the most notable example, probably - but it's very marginal and still doesn't seem to be noticed by bigger names publicly. Or I didn't find it yet? Possible. So I'm sorry for the strong words.And I agree they should release stuff that doesn't fit the current hardstyle/hardcore trends. Maybe with a different alias so some people won't get mad lol.
also agreeceero wrote: i think the main reason is that the crowd is just way too different these days. Yeah, this is the actual, original hardstyle sound that was this genre in 2000-2005, maybe 2006. It has rapidly evolved so much into something so vastly different, that most of people who listened to hardstyle back then simply left because they did not enjoy it and it says nothing to the most of nowadays crowd for the same reasons. And now the sound is re-emerging completely elsewhere, because it's brilliant and timeless, but speaking to a different crowd.
I don't think you could get away with calling this hardstyle (even though it 100% is) and releasing it on a hardstyle label today - this sound was built on progressive, lengthy, trancey passages, proper track length and stuff. Nowadays hardstyle is built on 15 second drops and pop vocals.
The discussion isn't about the length of the track in that topic and how unbearable it is but questioning the quality though?ceero wrote:The zoomer spotify goldfish attention span generation which represents the largest part of the hardstyle crowd today would simply not understand it. Just look up the topic about the t78 & kayo tune in the release section here.
I didn't like the track because I've heard better T78 tunes before and that has nothing to do with my attention span - which isn't that great always I admit 
not to be the old hipster again, but just look at the Qlimax lineups in 2006 or 2007. Hard trance opener, then a jumpstyle act, then a lot of hardstyle and 1 or 2 hardcore acts in the end. And stuff like Pascal Feliz - Platinum playing throughout the night. It sucks so hard that the hard dance scene threw away all the diversity it once had 