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Re: Unpopular opinions

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Tbh I've been making a lot of early hardstyle stuff lately.
Scared to put it out though in case everyone thinks I'm jumping on the new "Techno" trend :+

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MKN wrote:Tbh I've been making a lot of early hardstyle stuff lately.
Scared to put it out though in case everyone thinks I'm jumping on the new "Techno" trend :+
I mean do what you want man, and if I’m not mistaken you’ve always been on the Reverse Bass stuff so it’s no bandwagon
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The Convicted wrote:It's not going to be an unpopular opinion just some random rage. Why is it that the label, the artist you would expect the least release this proper oldschool banger (or some techno producers as well), meanwhile hardstyle producers don't even try this anymore? Or seem to give a damn about its existence? I've posted the track in the TOTD topic but here it is anyway:

i think the main reason is that the crowd is just way too different these days. Yeah, this is the actual, original hardstyle sound that was this genre in 2000-2005, maybe 2006. It has rapidly evolved so much into something so vastly different, that most of people who listened to hardstyle back then simply left because they did not enjoy it and it says nothing to the most of nowadays crowd for the same reasons. And now the sound is re-emerging completely elsewhere, because it's brilliant and timeless, but speaking to a different crowd.

I don't think you could get away with calling this hardstyle (even though it 100% is) and releasing it on a hardstyle label today - this sound was built on progressive, lengthy, trancey passages, proper track length and stuff. Nowadays hardstyle is built on 15 second drops and pop vocals. The zoomer spotify goldfish attention span generation which represents the largest part of the hardstyle crowd today would simply not understand it. Just look up the topic about the t78 & kayo tune in the release section here.

One truly unpopular opinion - I firmly believe that the sound that has emerged in the late 00s should have been called something else then hardstyle, despite the fact I love that sound (I mean it's 2021 and I still listen to this music, so yeah). For the reasons I described above. I know, I know, music evolves. But that was not an evolution, that was a complete shift in the sound of the music. Listen to trance from 2001 and to trance from 2021, you will still find shit ton of resemblances. Find me one between a 2001 hardstyle tune and a random 2021 hardstyle.
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Post by lilfrenchidiot »

^agreed. To that you add the fact that Hardstyle is probably one of the most closed-minded scenes when it comes to straying away from the standards, and you get the current scene :(
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Hey remember when Rob Gee got booed off stage at Sensation Black for playing Metal and Ska? Now a crowd of similar stature would soak up a one-hour set where at least 2/3 of it is just orchestral breaks or singalongs because it's so epic. Gotta put on that bassface for the aftermovie!
Meanwhile go to any Techno party and you'll be too busy sweating and bouncing to give a fuck about the social media aspect of parties. Those guys are open minded enough to accept whatever makes them move. Hell I'm even surprised that there are tracks now like this which sound almost like something YOJI would have made 16+ years ago. Again ceero is right on the money, the old sound is timeless.

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Post by ThePrincipal »

The PBC track is excellent as it that whole EP but if anything, more hard trance to me :)

Diversity died in hardstyle once they killed off Qult imo. It used to be great to hear 2-3 sets of non hardstyle stuff that would lead into hardstyle at parties and I always enjoyed playing 3-4 other genres in a set along with hardstyle. Glad I grew up in those days.
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Emre wrote:
lilfrenchidiot wrote:Where Did I Go by Blutonium Boy & Eric Brazilian is unironically a Hardstyle classic
Unironically agree, that track has earned it's place.
Like we used to mock it & co, but if someone played it at a big event I would go crazy :D
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Post by ceero »

....aaaand BAM, Dana & MOTVS collab being released out tomorrow :-O
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lilfrenchidiot wrote:
Emre wrote:
lilfrenchidiot wrote:Where Did I Go by Blutonium Boy & Eric Brazilian is unironically a Hardstyle classic
Unironically agree, that track has earned it's place.
Like we used to mock it & co, but if someone played it at a big event I would go crazy :D
Yeah same here, would've never expected that 8 years ago :rofl:

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This was unironically a good remix :rofl: :rofl: sorry guys

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