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Fu Xi
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dhamiri_blurrboy wrote:
so, this is just a basic idea of my remix of We Never Give Up by Davire Ft. Morra. and yes i'm using fronty's kick, which is seriously really not good :( :'( . but i hope i just use it for demo purposes. so enjoy



EDIT : for those who can't see my snippet, you can review it now.
I rlly like the melody and mood. I was rlly surprised by the kick, then i Saw you used frontliner's and it explained everything. One thing you should do tho, is not pitch the kick so low, when its too low and it feels just bad try pitching it up instead. Like if E4 sounds bad, pitch it to E5, and if it still doesnt work well try to change your bassline to fit your kick :)


Here's my track snippet :p I rlly want ppl's thought on that since its pretty different than what you usually hear in hardstyle ^-^

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Post by Starkast »

@Sustain, Nice track! kick might need some more distortion, Just to give it "a more filled out" sound.
@GamerZoneUsa, mid intro-sounds really low and muddy. Lead sounds very boring, not big enough, fill it out with some other ones.

First track after a break (aka windows 10 updating not going so well)

temtek
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Post by temtek »

@starkast Good screech pattern, try to use some sidechainin on it? Maybe sidechain "pumping" reverb?
I would make the kick more crunchy and fat.

@ Fu xi Just my opinion, but it has way too much vocals. But this is more emotional and softier version. Its just matter of your own taste. But overall, sounds have too much reverb and not bright enough. Cut under 200hz, cut little bit mids (300-600) and boost highs (2/4k)

My newest track, idea of the track is finished, and now paying attention on the mixdown:


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Post by SQMDQ »

@Fu Xi Very nice, I love the part from 2:05. I agree with the above poster that it does have a bit too much vocals. The kick also sounds very heavy in a particular frequency range and it is a bit harsh on the high frequencies.

@Starkast Sound good so far, the screech could use a bit more work and some heavier reverb. I love the kick though, the screech pattern sounds a bit repitative as well.

@temtek I honestly can't find anything bad to say about your track, it's really good. Just the kick could use more mids, the lower notes for the kick lack "body".

Here is mine, something that I just started today, don't know if I want to continue with it.


EDIT: progressed a little bit on it..

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Post by Chaze »

@Starkast
Your screech sounds a bit too dry, try adding some reverb and a tiny touch of delay to it. Makes it a little bit less 'boring' to listen to. Hear that you've been focussing on the kick, like the crunch and attack in it. Good work on that point. So focus a little more on the rest of the sounddesign by adding some verb in it :)

@Temtek
Love it man, lovely melody and lead. Fits nice together (screamy lead and high melody). Only thing I can point out is that your kick is a little bit 'muddy' when it goes down low. Further, like the way that you're using your kick with all the effects in it jumping up and down a little bit. About the intro and outro, I think it's a bit empty, but if it is that way that you want it, don't listen to me. Producer always knows best how to make the track.

@SQMDQ
Try to EQ your lead a little bit more, make it a litle bit wider. In my opinion the climax is a little bit too long on the same note (melody as well in the buildup) If it finally drops right after the long same notes it sounds nice!
Only thing I can say is that your kick misses a little bit more crunch in the tail. But keep this line of work up. You hear the difference between your 2 snippets.

Now my 'track'. tried to build a 2009 style melody once again. It's still WIP and a bit empty at this point, just testing out the melody with the kick. But let me know what you think :)


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NRx Hardstyle
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Post by NRx Hardstyle »

@Chaze: Like the melody, the simplicity but yet to complexity. The kick could do with some small tweaks but otherwise its a great start!

@SQMDQ: first melody is amazing, I love it. Some more EQ and some small tweaks you got yourself a great track!


Remaking one of my oldest songs. [Warning!: Cheesy AF lyrics]


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Post by DaBeatPlayah »

@GamerZoneUSA
Yeah, i'm glad you had fun making the track, and it does have some fundamentals of Hardstyle, but honestly, putting it nicely; your track needs a lot of work. By analizing what you have produced, i know you understand what a general track is made up of, however, you really need to play an instrument like piano (piano helps with everything overall). The reason for this is that you have no clue what key you are even producing in, your notes are chaotic and offbeat. Here are some tutorials so you know what i mean:
Don't copy, just analyze (Amateur production):
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Fuckin' amazing melodies (proffesional AF):
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@Sustain Nice mixdown, great FX, kick must have been made with an off note tail or you pitched it slightly wrong, sounds a few cents off :L Great little plucks and bells, nice concept. Overall a very good track :)

@dhamiri_blurrboy I like the vocoder effect, however in my opinion it is WAY too much, it's probably intended as a supportive thing :P Really cool pluck melody, great break before drop, Frontliner kick :^) I would remove the clap from 0:50 because it sort of sounds out of place and overused. Cymbals at 1:40 are weird :P kind of unnecessary. Otherwise, make an intro, end and you have yourself a nice track :^)

@Synthese Very thin starting lead, needs a lot more mids :P Same with later on synths, vocals incomprehensible, ok melody i guess (concept used often imo). Breakbeat/dubstep whatever part is lame, please add something or scrap the whole idea next time, plain snares after it isn't really a good idea. There's no real "buzz" or appeal to the track, as in there's no main point of interest (usually the melody) because yours keeps on changing, i get that when you produce, you hear it over and over again, and that sensitizes you to it making you want more variation. Idk its a bit of a ramble, and it's pretty harsh, i'm not saying it's bad or that i'm a good producer, but yeah, make more tracks, learn more, analyze tracks and you're good to go :) Nice Youtube artwork btw :star:

An edit i'm doing:

An original piece (Update) [Yes, i know the tail of my kick is fucked xD]:
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Post by Valken »

@NRx
Wow,i've got nothing more to add. Just wow

@DaBeatPlayah
I think the reverb is too much imo, also theres nothing wrong with the kick to my ears :)

Could anyone give their opinion on my latest track:

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Post by Sustain »

@Chase, (you have a weird note at 0:14), try to layer your lead, it seems a bit empty.
Melody is really cool by the way ! But the kick is really too bouncy

@NRx, Really nice crunch ! I think it lack a bit of bass ( personal taste ),
your screech pattern seems a bit chaotic and pretty dry, add some reverb ( same for your lead )
but overall really nice !

@DaBeatPlayah, thanks man ! I think the kick lack of distortion, and he is like, too linear.
Love your TBA lead ! But yes your kick sounds muddy.

Here is my latest :)

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Post by Sanchuk »

OK lets see guys!

@DaBeatPlayah
Freaking amazing remix of Volt m8! I really liked the break and the choire lead in the begining. I think you need to push your kick more to the front in the qlimax, you can do it grrat with a bit sidechaning =D
The secound one has a really good vibe of the old epic tracks :D Still need to work on the kick it self, but the idea sound amzing!

@Valken
Well, you know maybe a lot of people can say that this is not hardstyle and they will be right. But there is something preaty neat in this bits if you ask me =D Its no something that i can judje so i cant really suggest anything to add or to remove! Keep working on this style, and maybe it will be the next big thing ;D

@Sustain
Wow! Loved what you did there with the vocals. There is a really a lot going on in this track. You created a nice hall atmosfear in there, really loved it and want to know how to do it my self (i suck when it comes to space) but i think there is a bit too much reverb to me. Really loved the break and the kick but there still a bit epicnes missing in the qlimax (cant really say what it is). And you did a great mixing work. 10\10 on the technical work my freind, 6\10 on the melody epicnes ive got nothing to add! :D

OK guys, i have worked on 2 new tunes lately, really need to hear your opinion - especially about the mixing part :D



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