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ItsHeavyMOFO wrote:This I guess is more personal but unless I get a good amount of sleep I cant produce for shit on the next day.
Yeh i think so... :naughty:
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I actually find I produce better when I'm tired. My sleepy brain seems to get creative. My best works have all been made at like 3-6am or something.

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Nonkovic wrote:
Digital Shifter wrote:
Nonkovic wrote: For reference, of course! Most of the time if i'm testing a track, i'll take a hell lot of references... Like on my laptop, normal pc speakers, in the car (which is a great reference imo) on a small telephone external speaker and on the hi-fi in my livingroom.. If it sounds nice everywhere, you're doing it right!
Hmm yeah, but you dind't bought these studio monitors just for fun right? Or am i wrong? Not hating or some but. Still rare, because when you're sure that your track is HQ on you monitors then why it woudn't be on normal speakers? But thanks for the tip Darycka!
No of course, but since studio monitors have a better frequency response than other loudspeaker systems, you always want to check things.. Like for instance, if i can hear a drum kick on my studio monitors really good, it can disappear in your mix when you're listening on laptop speakers for instance.. Because they don't have the same frequency response as your high tech monitors. Because you want to make sure that you can hear every single thing in your mix, because IF you sell something, everything needs to heard on every set of loudspeakers. If not, the consumer will find your tracks lacking of proper quality, and will not buy your shit anymore. ;)

Sorry that i asked.. And i don't make shit :(

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TheRavestyler wrote:
ljk32 wrote:
TheRavestyler wrote: well u got a point there .
but for example just look at that new coone video he shows that lead freq. 100hz cutted down.
so basically if u want to mix a synth with a Kickdrum u must low cut it .
cause if u dont cut it it wont mix well. there wont be any headroom for the kick than.
and todays synths in hs are all Stereo widend u cant hear mono often (expect insdustrial , dnb and co).
about cuttings synths more than 100hz , never tryed but i dont see much point there doing it if u cut it to lets say 200hz down it will sound too thin thats why i would leave it at 100hz.
No, just because Coone did it on one lead, that doesn't mean it applies to every lead. Go by the sound of things and not the values. Stop spreading crap you don't know.
what coone did in his video was just an example.
and what "crap", it is how it is.
if u dont cut ur lead , good luck with mixing.
I didn't say not to cut the low end on leads, I was saying that you shouldn't be so strict on values, and just go by what sounds good. Obviously if the kick and lead sound nice with each other, you've mixed the lead in well, and the values you've cut at don't mean shit, since all that matters in the end is whether it sounds good or not. I'm not saying to avoid using analysers, cause they are extremely helpful, I'm saying to stop putting so much focus on the specific frequencies, and start just listening, instead of 'watching'.

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Digital Shifter wrote:
Nonkovic wrote:
Digital Shifter wrote:
Hmm yeah, but you dind't bought these studio monitors just for fun right? Or am i wrong? Not hating or some but. Still rare, because when you're sure that your track is HQ on you monitors then why it woudn't be on normal speakers? But thanks for the tip Darycka!
No of course, but since studio monitors have a better frequency response than other loudspeaker systems, you always want to check things.. Like for instance, if i can hear a drum kick on my studio monitors really good, it can disappear in your mix when you're listening on laptop speakers for instance.. Because they don't have the same frequency response as your high tech monitors. Because you want to make sure that you can hear every single thing in your mix, because IF you sell something, everything needs to heard on every set of loudspeakers. If not, the consumer will find your tracks lacking of proper quality, and will not buy your shit anymore. ;)

Sorry that i asked.. And i don't make shit :(

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LoooooL, don't bother dude, i wasn't trying to be rude or something like that, just wanted to explain it to you really good! ^^ :p
And i know you don't make shit, have my apologies man... :'(
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here's what a rule I always go by when mixing, cut until it starts to affect the sound ie you can hear the change, then roll back a little. also theres more to Eqing a lead to just low cutting, remember you need to make space for each element in the freq range. every element is like a square peg trying to fit in the round whole, and you need to trim the edges to make it fit.

auratones are ideally what you want but they are like hens teeth. I mix on my event 20/20s, then reference on a hifi, in my sennheisers, on the loudspeaker of my phone, in earphones and in my car. more reference points the better, and compare your final mix with other commercially available tracks, see how it matches up.

finally... trust your ears, flashy analysers and scopes are all well and good useful tools, but they ain't gonna tell you everything!

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spelling is terrible lol dam autocorrect

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Nonkovic wrote:
Digital Shifter wrote:
Nonkovic wrote: No of course, but since studio monitors have a better frequency response than other loudspeaker systems, you always want to check things.. Like for instance, if i can hear a drum kick on my studio monitors really good, it can disappear in your mix when you're listening on laptop speakers for instance.. Because they don't have the same frequency response as your high tech monitors. Because you want to make sure that you can hear every single thing in your mix, because IF you sell something, everything needs to heard on every set of loudspeakers. If not, the consumer will find your tracks lacking of proper quality, and will not buy your shit anymore. ;)

Sorry that i asked.. And i don't make shit :(

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LoooooL, don't bother dude, i wasn't trying to be rude or something like that, just wanted to explain it to you really good! ^^ :p
And i know you don't make shit, have my apologies man... :'(
No problem dude! I make shit though only no details on that xD
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TheRavestyler wrote:
ljk32 wrote:
TheRavestyler wrote: well u got a point there .
but for example just look at that new coone video he shows that lead freq. 100hz cutted down.
so basically if u want to mix a synth with a Kickdrum u must low cut it .
cause if u dont cut it it wont mix well. there wont be any headroom for the kick than.
and todays synths in hs are all Stereo widend u cant hear mono often (expect insdustrial , dnb and co).
about cuttings synths more than 100hz , never tryed but i dont see much point there doing it if u cut it to lets say 200hz down it will sound too thin thats why i would leave it at 100hz.
No, just because Coone did it on one lead, that doesn't mean it applies to every lead. Go by the sound of things and not the values. Stop spreading crap you don't know.
what coone did in his video was just an example.
and what "crap", it is how it is.
if u dont cut ur lead , good luck with mixing.
You don't get the point man. What we're trying to tell you, is that: Low cut at the frequency it sounds naturally, warm and don't conflict with other sounds. And what you're telling us, is that you ALWAYS cut at 100hz. Not 101hz, 98hz. Only at 100hz, which is totally wrong. It also depends on what shape your low cut with :)

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Post by MRK »

Did you know that you can widen a bit up sound is stereo field by cloning the sound putting it 1-3 ms later than first sound and then putting this second sound into the different mixer channel. Then you pan first channel on left and second channel on right. Values of panning should be quite high to avoid clipping and that I dunno hiw to say it phaser effect?
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