Virus TI, worth buying?

[Euphorizer]

FL sucks, not the virus
No problems in any DAW, only in FL

Jesus christ, we've already established that man

[Pavilon]

So don't post

[Dj Reaper]

The generated harmonics are different

Wat do you mean with different harmonics? Do you mean the overtones of the waveforms? Aren´t they somehow fixed by a mathematical equation? No pro on the mathematical aspect tough, so I might be wrong..

[Euphorizer]

So don't post

You're acting ignorant dude. You decided to nitpick my words and bring them out of context to get a chance to say that "FL Sucks". Maybe you shouldn't post? All I said was that the virus sucks with FL Studio. No reason for you to repeat me just to bash on a DAW.

hey sorry for this question, i know research could help too, but as there is this thread already, may I ask you which special features it has the sylenth (or more of it´s instances) doesn´t have? I know for PWM but are there some others you can name on flight?

The virus can simply just do more stuff imo. It features wavetables, more FX (different types of choruses, analog simulation, lots of different distortions etc), has better modulation opportunities etc. You're better off asking someone more used to the thing than me though

[Dj Reaper]

haha I´d love trying it out one day, but I live in a small place with no bigger synth-shop near and I don´t want to just buy it if I don´t really need it. Tough I think in terms of modulation for a non-modular hardware synth it´s hard to beat the Alesis Andromeda A6 But how are the wavetables? Does it work similar to Massive? I´m still pretty much a noob in wavetable synthesis to be honest.

[TJOAudio]

The generated harmonics are different

Wat do you mean with different harmonics? Do you mean the overtones of the waveforms? Aren´t they somehow fixed by a mathematical equation? No pro on the mathematical aspect tough, so I might be wrong..

Each synth generates different overtones or harmonics or whatever you want to call it. If you like the virus ones.. buy a virus

These are a few examples, moog, jp8 and a sylenth same waveform(saw) on the same note, but as you can see, they're all different, virus would have its own

http://gyazo.com/8905afc7cf0cbee6d1b83231226be723 - Moog

http://gyazo.com/a2a92041dcf84a9f63b70c2b51c44b56 - Sylenth, as you can see, it cuts off top end. Its why I dont like sylenth for saw leads.

http://gyazo.com/edd698f6b3b3877c80f8b0b71a5227d0 - JP8

[Dj Reaper]

The generated harmonics are different

Wat do you mean with different harmonics? Do you mean the overtones of the waveforms? Aren´t they somehow fixed by a mathematical equation? No pro on the mathematical aspect tough, so I might be wrong..

Each synth generates different overtones or harmonics or whatever you want to call it. If you like the virus ones.. buy a virus

These are a few examples, moog, jp8 and a sylenth same waveform(saw) on the same note, but as you can see, they're all different, virus would have its own

http://gyazo.com/8905afc7cf0cbee6d1b83231226be723 - Moog

http://gyazo.com/a2a92041dcf84a9f63b70c2b51c44b56 - Sylenth, as you can see, it cuts off top end. Its why I dont like sylenth for saw leads.

http://gyazo.com/edd698f6b3b3877c80f8b0b71a5227d0 - JP8

Thanks for the response. I find it a bit strange, isn´t it maybe because the Jp8 and the Moog are analog synths and the instability of the oscillators and the circuit bending may have influence on pitch and overtones? However I admit not having read up enough on this so I can´t argue on it. I thought all digital synths should have the same waveforms, as a wave digitally is just generated by following an equation, in the case of a sawtooth all regular (not odd) overtones are present with diminuishing amplitude and if you input tthe same frequency the equation in all cases should give thze same result. Well, however I am pretty happy with the leads sylenth generates and it is used in many leads from producers whose leads I find really nice so I don´t have a problem with that cut. And isn´t it cut over 20 kHz anyway? That would mean that those frequencies are inaudible anyway for us.. keep in mind I am saying this all on combining information I heard or read, it´s not an article by a professional that I read saying this so I might not take in consideration certain aspects, so feel free to prove me wrong just curious about those things!

[TJOAudio]

Wat do you mean with different harmonics? Do you mean the overtones of the waveforms? Aren´t they somehow fixed by a mathematical equation? No pro on the mathematical aspect tough, so I might be wrong..

Each synth generates different overtones or harmonics or whatever you want to call it. If you like the virus ones.. buy a virus

These are a few examples, moog, jp8 and a sylenth same waveform(saw) on the same note, but as you can see, they're all different, virus would have its own

http://gyazo.com/8905afc7cf0cbee6d1b83231226be723 - Moog

http://gyazo.com/a2a92041dcf84a9f63b70c2b51c44b56 - Sylenth, as you can see, it cuts off top end. Its why I dont like sylenth for saw leads.

http://gyazo.com/edd698f6b3b3877c80f8b0b71a5227d0 - JP8

Thanks for the response. I find it a bit strange, isn´t it maybe because the Jp8 and the Moog are analog synths and the instability of the oscillators and the circuit bending may have influence on pitch and overtones? However I admit not having read up enough on this so I can´t argue on it. I thought all digital synths should have the same waveforms, as a wave digitally is just generated by following an equation, in the case of a sawtooth all regular (not odd) overtones are present with diminuishing amplitude and if you input tthe same frequency the equation in all cases should give thze same result. Well, however I am pretty happy with the leads sylenth generates and it is used in many leads from producers whose leads I find really nice so I don´t have a problem with that cut. And isn´t it cut over 20 kHz anyway? That would mean that those frequencies are inaudible anyway for us.. keep in mind I am saying this all on combining information I heard or read, it´s not an article by a professional that I read saying this so I might not take in consideration certain aspects, so feel free to prove me wrong just curious about those things!

Just get Omnisphere, it has wavetables from hardware synths that you can use as well as its own generator

[Dj Reaper]

Haha I have Omnisphere but I use it more for it´s great sampled sounds! I find the GUI a bit confusing, but I´ll try to make a supersaw lead with it basing on the virus waveform and compare it to the sylenth supersaw to see the difference. Tough the virus has many other advantages I heard, like the filters, so having Omnisphjere will not entirely replace/or demonstrate a Virus..

[TJOAudio]

Haha I have Omnisphere but I use it more for it´s great sampled sounds! I find the GUI a bit confusing, but I´ll try to make a supersaw lead with it basing on the virus waveform and compare it to the sylenth supersaw to see the difference. Tough the virus has many other advantages I heard, like the filters, so having Omnisphjere will not entirely replace/or demonstrate a Virus..

If you find omnisphere confusing then virus would be confusing as well, both matrixes are very similar