Frontliner - The Sample Pack

[Echidna]

Producers who disagree with this need to go to their hard drives and delete all their sample packs. This is no different to a vengeance, prime loops or sample magic pack. It'll help hardstyle in a lot of ways, invoke more creativity etc

All for it, great job Barry!

[RaVaGe]

I think it's great for someone who want to learn how to produce, this way you can avoid the really hard process of learning from scratch and start directly to be creative. Even though some good tutorials could have made the job too.

[EyezerHardstyle]

Could be cool for the newbies to use for private use or noob free-tracks. I used some ripped kicks at the start just for fun and to get some inspiration and a "producer" feeling. But this can be used for wrong purposes also, especially if labels actually do accept a track made with sounds from this pack.

Producers who disagree with this need to go to their hard drives and delete all their sample packs. This is no different to a vengeance, prime loops or sample magic pack. It'll help hardstyle in a lot of ways, invoke more creativity etc

All for it, great job Barry!

It's way harder to make a hardstyle kick than it is to make a damn up/down sweep , clap or a reverb FX gated kick. I only use some claps, snares, sweeps and some FX kicks and effects from vengeance packs, but I also make some of these sounds myself. Not really a good comparison imo.

[Final_Form]

It will be the same like with hardkick10. Everyone will know the samples after a week or so and once you hear a track made with it you can still think what you want of it.

Although I prefer Blutonium Boy Hardstyle samples

[Echidna]

Lets be realistic, a hardstyle kick is not as hard to make as people seem to proclaim. Its a process, like everything else sound design related. A process can be learned, repeated and perfected. It is not a holy grail or secret code that can't be broken.

Sampling is a fundamental part and such a major process in the development of electronic music. This wide spread disgust at sampling that has developed over the years, especially within the hardstyle community, has demotivated a lot of novice/hobbyist producers, prohibiting creativity. Gone are the days of just throwing a sample in and looping it, developing idea after idea. Instead people feel they have to sit for weeks on end listening to a distorted kick drum, worrying its not going to be good enough. Or god forbid it is actually pro sounding, then what happens is they get accused of ripping it!

As Frontliner has stated, 350 kicks to get you going, start editing and splicing, processing etc you can have a totally original kick, ready for a new track in 1/10 of the time. Who wouldn't be happy with that?

I produce a lot of genres of music and sampling helps spark new ideas, takes me in directions I would never have thought of before. I wouldn't dream of limiting myself to only using sounds and elements I have created myself.

Really, it is about time a decent pack came along to shake up hardstyle. The last one I can think of that provoked such a positive impacted on hard dance was Blutonium/Neo's pack and it is STILL being used and manipulated to this day. Who knows, maybe hardstyle will have another Hardkick10 moment which completely changed the course of the genre, catapulting it into a new direction.

[ceero]

Lets be realistic, a hardstyle kick is not as hard to make as people seem to proclaim. Its a process, like everything else sound design related. A process can be learned, repeated and perfected. It is not a holy grail or secret code that can't be broken.

Sampling is a fundamental part and such a major process in the development of electronic music. This wide spread disgust at sampling that has developed over the years, especially within the hardstyle community, has demotivated a lot of novice/hobbyist producers, prohibiting creativity. Gone are the days of just throwing a sample in and looping it, developing idea after idea. Instead people feel they have to sit for weeks on end listening to a distorted kick drum, worrying its not going to be good enough. Or god forbid it is actually pro sounding, then what happens is they get accused of ripping it!

As Frontliner has stated, 350 kicks to get you going, start editing and splicing, processing etc you can have a totally original kick, ready for a new track in 1/10 of the time. Who wouldn't be happy with that?

I produce a lot of genres of music and sampling helps spark new ideas, takes me in directions I would never have thought of before. I wouldn't dream of limiting myself to only using sounds and elements I have created myself.

Really, it is about time a decent pack came along to shake up hardstyle. The last one I can think of that provoked such a positive impacted on hard dance was Blutonium/Neo's pack and it is STILL being used and manipulated to this day. Who knows, maybe hardstyle will have another Hardkick10 moment which completely changed the course of the genre, catapulting it into a new direction.

Amen to this.

The Prodigy is a great example for me. Without these guys nowadays electronic music wouldnt be the same, if it would even exist and well, almost every big track they made is made from samples not own sounds. Ofc you cant take it too far like Scooter f.e, but thats a whole another debate

[noiseshock_of]

the things one does for attention

[DjPractice]

^ hahhahaahahaha Josi you're killing me!!!! So true though


This is a stupid idea. People are going to rip kicks and be unoriginal whether he puts up the pack or not. Now that is only going to increase with this pack.

Also echo qre8tive's comments

[DaBeatPlayah]

Frontliner says there aren't enough producers out there, i however on the other hand find that we have enough. Go on Soundcloud and you'll eventually find how many there are. The problem could be that Soundclouds' system doesn't mange to showcase small producers who have something to show. As part of the community on there, releasing their tracks almost regularly, I feel that we're a stuck community where it's hard to leave, sure it's nice to receive feedback from other producers like you, it's just not easy to get into the "big world" of the harddance genre. You'll notice that recent and upcoming producer like Cyber and Sylence have begun to come out of the "not so popular" community and have started to appear on upload channels aswell as in the Q-dance monthly Top 40. If you're a small producer, i hope you know what i man by "it's hard to get out there when you're only starting" and things like Frontliner's sample packs may/ may not help us, I can totally see what leeroy means in this scenario, but then again, the sample pack will help distinguish producers even more, with some following the pack and others staying unique. I find that it will be completely easy to identify who is using the pack and who is not, the only thing that would be a shame, is if the people who use the pack get better responses than the people who don't.

Some not so popular, yet good producers:
https://soundcloud.com/syranity
https://soundcloud.com/asymetric-music
https://soundcloud.com/coredivision
https://soundcloud.com/thresholt

^ Those are just some of the few, if you give them a chance, they will definitely produce some amazing tracks in the future.

[GamerZoneUSA]

I also have mixed feelings and I wanna see what sounds are in here.. I could use some samples tbh.. I think it will be good for people just starting off.. But I also agree Barry has a HUGE ego