Commercial Hardstyle remixes topic

[Neko]

The trend developed into an overload of bootlegs/remixes, because newcomer divined it being succesfull and it was... (I did it a few times too )I heard quite a few times already a nice bootleg from someonw who I never heard of in some pretty famous podcasts.
And thats just because its easier to produce those bootlegs/remixes and let them sound good than producing your completely own track. Also with this bootlegs/remixes you more easily pull the attention of the listener who scrolls down the tracklist because he most likely knows the original and the barrier to like a track gets smaller when you know the basis of a track. (I'm only talking about the majority of the hardstyle listeners - those who don't listen to hardstyle on a regular basis)

Thats my opinion why this idea of bootlegging/remixing works out.
But I also think this is just a trend and might end sooner or later. Because sooner or later those remixes/bootleg won't appeal special anymore when you read the track tags.

[PNXRMX]

Everyone always takes the negative stance vs producers and djs, as though they're your enemies and you want to take them down at any possible opportunity. Maybe, producers make house bootlegs because they actually LIKE the track and want to create a version playable in their hardstyle set. Do you really think that Zatox's thought process is: "I know what will make me rich and famous! Epic with different kicks!"?

Productions from other genres, where there's more money to go around, also tend to have better vocalists (from countries where people can actually speak English properly, for example). Why pay loads of money or suffer reduced quality when you could just sample <insert popular track here>? Or, from a dj point of view, maybe you want to create that epic crowd moment that you can only achieve with a tune that everybody knows?

It just so happens that the sound from house/bigroom/trance/pop fits with the current hardstyle sound better, which makes sampling/bootlegging/remixing a whole lot easier. Plus, there are a fuckload of hardstyle producers, so pretty much every bootleg imaginable is going to get made by someone. The problem is that there is 'too much' of one type of track, but that's an inevitable consequence of humanity. It happens with every genre in every era. Most people just aren't very original.

[Emre]

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This. Couldn't say better.

[The Void]

As stated above, bootlegs are a great way to promote yourself as an upcoming producer. People are already familiar with the original tracks so you can "leech" from the popularity of those tracks to get your name out more. Also with vocal tracks becoming more popular and more producers wanting to make tracks in these style the acapellas that are released from these other genres become a good source to use as the vocals are of professional quality.

I personally like bootlegs where you can hear that they've actually put effort into the track rather than just taking the original and placing a hardstyle kick into it. Tracks like the Bioweapon remix of Toca's Miracle and some of the Toneshifterz bootlegs are still some of my favourites.

When I make a bootleg of a track it's because I want to make it for fun rather than for the extra promotion that could come out of it. I make bootlegs of tracks that I like a lot and that I would be interested in hearing a hardstyle version of and whilst I make it I try to add something new to the original to make it more interesting. But this is just my approach to bootlegs

[Maximumraver]

PNXRMX wins the thread.

[Shadow Interaction]

Everyone always takes the negative stance vs producers and djs, as though they're your enemies and you want to take them down at any possible opportunity. Maybe, producers make house bootlegs because they actually LIKE the track and want to create a version playable in their hardstyle set. Do you really think that Zatox's thought process is: "I know what will make me rich and famous! Epic with different kicks!"?

It's likely to assume most "dedicated" hardstylers are also the biggest critics, but in reality the crowd that doesn't care is usually the biggest critic. However I don't intent to hate on anyone, I just dislike the way the trend is setting lately. Another reason for that is because I do NOT like commercial house, and it frustrates me a lot whenever I see a big hardstyle producer remix a track from a house producer I never heard of.
And I assume Zatox just did a Dj Tool, yes of course but I was judging the final sound of it, maybe not the best thing to include Dj tools in the opening post, for that point I'll take back mentioning it.

from a dj point of view, maybe you want to create that epic crowd moment that you can only achieve with a tune that everybody knows?

Certainly, but,

It just so happens that the sound from house/bigroom/trance/pop fits with the current hardstyle sound better, which makes sampling/bootlegging/remixing a whole lot easier.

An unfortunate thing, but:

there are a fuckload of hardstyle producers, so pretty much every bootleg imaginable is going to get made by someone. The problem is that there is 'too much' of one type of track, but that's an inevitable consequence of humanity.

This is what i'm aiming for yes, thank you for agreeing with me.

[GamerZoneUSA]

What's the difference between a bootleg and remix?

[ceero]

remix is official, using the original pieces/samples of the track, bootleg isnt neither

[repeat]

btw I didn't just open the topic, to limit it to commercial house remixes alone, but rather "remixes of different genres" in general aswell.

Another one I really really like is this one:

Anyone know where you can buy that track ?

[DaHunger]

btw I didn't just open the topic, to limit it to commercial house remixes alone, but rather "remixes of different genres" in general aswell.

Another one I really really like is this one:

Anyone know where you can buy that track ?

you can't
it's a free release: http://www.lololyrics.com/free-162