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What easier to make Hardcore or Hardstyle?

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ljk32
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Re: What easier to make Hardcore or Hardstyle?

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Marfram wrote:Produce music with your hearth
Yeah, just do that, who even needs DAW's?

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Post by Marfram »

ljk32 wrote:
Marfram wrote:Produce music with your hearth
Yeah, just do that, who even needs DAW's?
You made my day already, and I still need to sleep. _O_

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Post by ljk32 »

I have a slight feeling that you didn't understand what I was getting at. Here, I fixed it:

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I see my spelling error (H)

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Post by TJOAudio »

Hardstyle is technically the hardest dance style to produce mainly because of the kicks which are a nightmare to mix not to even mention create. If you want to start producing Hardstyle at a decent level, I suggest you focus on kicks for a year or even few years, it will greatly enhance your knowledge of compression and eq'ing techniques. Same goes to hardcore.

Also by hearing what you posted on soundcloud, what the hell do you listen to your music on? Do you produce on laptop speakers or something?

Buy a decent pair of headphones or monitors if you can afford em, and compare your tracks to a pro track all the time(Mix wise>Reference mixing)

That's what I would suggest for a beginner Hardstyle/hardcore producer.

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Post by Statical »

I've actually thought a lot about this exact comparison in terms of difficulty.

For beginners making kicks, I think that making a mediocre acceptable hardcore kick is easier than making an acceptable hardstyle kick. I say this mainly because the hardstyle kick is going to be 15-20% longer, which is going to require pickier distortion/eq chain in order to get that tonal distortion to be stretched out enough yet still maintain enough of a hit. With a hardcore kick it seems like you make slight imperfections and still have something worth using. The way the punch and tail are less distinct without the decay after the the punch like in a HS kick gives you more room for error in my opinion.

That being said at a higher level it's about the same. If you are making release quality hardstyle/core tracks, both kicks require equal amount of effort and time. Just that hardcore might seem easier at the beginning because of what I mentioned earlier.
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Post by Hypersurge »

I just upgraded my sound 2 days ago. I have a Presound Audiobox 22VSL for a soundcard and use V-moda Crossfade LP Headphones.

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Post by SCH »

Well a shorter kick means less space for it to be tonal on as well, but hey, kicks don't need to be tonal all the time, as long as something else is carrying the tonality of the track.
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my next attempt with distortion -


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Post by Dj Reaper »

Haha I agree with this. When I started I just finished hardcore tracks because I was never able to get something worth being called a hs kick. now on a more advanced level I keep making hardstyle tracks as I learnt to make those kicks at a level usable in tracks but however I am no more able to make hardcore kicks, or just a few come out..I think if you worked very hard on both after years you would see they both require the same time.

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