General Purpose Thread

[MarlboroMan]

It's Ophidian and Ruffneck afaik.

[Prozel]

Thanks!

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[SCH]

I just found this

[Xenon96]

My classmate showed me this track, and the lead at 0:33 sounded so familiar to me. Does it appear in some hardcore track too?

[MarlboroMan]

Yeah some older Hardcore track indeed, can't name it now though.

[SCH]

I'd say loads of different tracks

[Xenon96]

Could you name a few, please

[Reverse Ghost]

I always associated it with the Happy Hardcore of the 90s.

[Jonas]

Ophidian on Crossbreed:

‎[Rant alert]
Just a few things to somewhat clarify my last rather short "Industrial ≠ Crossbreed" statement:

1. I'm not saying one style is better than the other, I'm merely stating that there's a difference, albeit sometimes subtle.
2. I do not promote sub-sub-sub-dividing of genres, but people *will* use these stickers to define songs/artists/parties, so then I propose to do so neatly when applicable.
3. There is skill involved in doing "proper" Industrial or Crossbreed. It disturbs me that (young or up-and-coming or oblivious) producers make a hardcore beat, slap on a bad snare drum and "sell" it as Crossbreed, because they feel it's the hype and think it's what they're doing. The same way, hardcore with a loud kick drum, but no melody is not Industrial.
4. I'm not trying to create a schism between fans of one or the other. I myself like both and feel that experimenting with both and mixing them up in a DJ-set creates variance and dynamics.
5. Rather, the statement was mainly aimed at fans and promoters more accustomed to mainstream hardcore who consider everything that is not mainstream to be "Room 2" music. This kind of blind grouping of subtleties they don't really understand leads to a loss of definition between labels and artists.
6. It also occasionally leads to a mess and embarrassing situations at parties. I've seen line-ups that look like this:
23:00 A DJ that usually plays 190+ bpm mainstreamish hard-hitters.
0:00 Terror
1:00 A DJ that plays Crossbreed and ends at 190 bpm.
2:00 A DJ that usually plays 140-165 bpm Industrial.
3:00 Frenchcore
etc. etc.
Of course, at a party where the theme is "Everyone is going to play different, be prepared!" this will work just fine, but at a party that is introducing these styles to a new audience, or a very specific one, it leads to confusion and misunderstanding, even hostility. I've seen DJs I like very much being booed for playing their own style, that they are very good at, just because they were dealt the wrong time-slot, in the wrong room, by a promoter who can't tell one thing from the other.
7. Let's all make and listen to music and have fun.

P.S. I don't consider myself to by a Crossbreed producer at all. I *do* however use snare drums in some tracks, and I do like Drum 'n Bass. Some of my more offbeat and weird stuff occasionally strays close to or into Crossbreed territory (like some Meander tracks, and some of my faster work), but I wouldn't name it Crossbreed. I'll leave that to the pros, although I might like to have a shot at it some time in the future, just for the heck of it.
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[Reverse Ghost]

I feel it was more of a rant against shitty lineups and how disorganized the scene can get with so many sub-sub-subgenres