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Re: Mixdowns & EQ Tips Topic

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@HazardouZ, the final steps your describing are more or less mastering issues (atleast, I assume you put the multiband and eq's on your master).

@TheRavestyler, I'm sorry to say, but everything you say is not true. Chris One recently talked about cutting low ends on leads in one of his live sessions and I know most producers do this. Also, kicks are like the basis of your mix which needs to be centered. I wouldn't say that it should be 100% mono, but you really shouldn't overdo stereo on your kicks!

As for making your mixdowns louder, it's important to eq everything in the right way. Boosting frequencies too much will cost you lots of headroom, compression may be an answer but will cause a less dynamic result. Also, generally speaking, mastering will boost your volume as well, but I shouldn't start with such things as long as you're a beginner ;) I theory a compressor on the master (or actually, a limiter most of the time) does help you with the mastering process, but it's just a small step of it ;)
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About the lead thing... the lows on the lead are OK just make sure when something with bass (for example a kick) comes in you automate the eq or activate another eq (or filter) that cuts those lows since the frequencies will be replaced with the kick. It is true when your lead has some low it can sound better.

And kicks are sometimes part stereo part mono. The tok of the kick that really gives you that slamming feeling is often (not always) stereo. Try Sonalksis Stereo Tools (or something like that). You can set the frequency range of the signal being mono and rest stereo. Sometimes this works really well and sometimes it doesn't
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Darycka wrote: @TheRavestyler, I'm sorry to say, but everything you say is not true. Chris One recently talked about cutting low ends on leads in one of his live sessions and I know most producers do this.

Thats A Analyze of the Lead from Atmozfears - Limitless.
tell me whats cutted ?? :+
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That the low end lies on -6dB?

Also, Limiters is something I would only use on parts of the tracks with a bad need to reducing the peaks...
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@TheRavestyler In all honesty, I'm only trying to help ;) You really should cut the lows on your lead, or they'll affect with your kick. And by the way, there's a lot of things which could've caused that low, like a low quality rip or smth...
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Darycka wrote:@TheRavestyler In all honesty, I'm only trying to help ;) You really should cut the lows on your lead, or they'll affect with your kick. And by the way, there's a lot of things which could've caused that low, like a low quality rip or smth...
i know that u try to help so do i, but still im kinda confused and i just said what i saw :?
btw The Analyze is From Atmozfears - Limitless (320kbit file , Free release from Atmozfears).
another maybe stupid question with cut u mean to cut them all Away that u cant see the frequency anymore or just do for example a -24db/oct lowcut ?
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TheRavestyler wrote:
Darycka wrote:@TheRavestyler In all honesty, I'm only trying to help ;) You really should cut the lows on your lead, or they'll affect with your kick. And by the way, there's a lot of things which could've caused that low, like a low quality rip or smth...
i know that u try to help so do i, but still im kinda confused and i just said what i saw :?
btw The Analyze is From Atmozfears - Limitless (320kbit file , Free release from Atmozfears).
another maybe stupid question with cut u mean to cut them all Away that u cant see the frequency anymore or just do for example a -24db/oct lowcut ?
I'm surprised you can't hear the difference with and without the lowcut. The lows interfere so much. I mean there just isn't that much room in the bottomend of the frequency range.

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TheRavestyler wrote:
Darycka wrote:@TheRavestyler In all honesty, I'm only trying to help ;) You really should cut the lows on your lead, or they'll affect with your kick. And by the way, there's a lot of things which could've caused that low, like a low quality rip or smth...
i know that u try to help so do i, but still im kinda confused and i just said what i saw :?
btw The Analyze is From Atmozfears - Limitless (320kbit file , Free release from Atmozfears).
another maybe stupid question with cut u mean to cut them all Away that u cant see the frequency anymore or just do for example a -24db/oct lowcut ?
Yeah, Darycka is right. 30hz is way too low to cut. And yeah, there will still be some frequency content at about 50hz from a lead, but it will be at a much lower volume compared to the rest of the lead. With Fabfilter, which I assume you use, I can make a 48db cut all the way at 100hz, and there will still be some frequencies playing at 50hz or so. As long as it sounds good. And same with the kicks, you can make them stereo if you like, but 200hz and lower must be mono.

And damn this topic, like, why do people have set approaches of doing things? For example, the op boosting 4db on the high end of his leads? You don't have to use set formulas. But besides that, the most frustrating thing to see is the questions about making the track louder. Firstly, why the hell are people eqing the master channel? If you wanted some more clarity, do it during the mix. A good master comes from a good mix and a good master = volume.. Do not worry at all about the level of your tracks until you have a good sounding mixdown.

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The best tips you can get are in this book:
Roey Izhaki - Mixing Audio
Read it and practice.
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TheRavestyler wrote:
Darycka wrote: @TheRavestyler, I'm sorry to say, but everything you say is not true. Chris One recently talked about cutting low ends on leads in one of his live sessions and I know most producers do this.

Thats A Analyze of the Lead from Atmozfears - Limitless.
tell me whats cutted ?? :+
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They can have this one bounced out without cutting the low end for climax intro for example so its sounds more full and then when the kick came in they can have another one with low ends cutted !

Frontliner told that he is doing this lil trick ! ;D (in one of his livestreams)

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