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Re: History of Hardcore

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Hardcore started around 1990/1991. And yes, Paul was one of the pioneers.

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lamtak wrote:Hardcore started around 1990/1991. And yes, Paul was one of the pioneers.
I was more pointing out how bad he is...
I'm grumpier than you.

Do people even read these?

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SCH wrote:
lamtak wrote:Hardcore started around 1990/1991. And yes, Paul was one of the pioneers.
I was more pointing out how bad he is...
But you can't deny that he played a very important role.

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Paul was a part of Holy Noise, together with Richard van Naamen and Rob Fabrie (aka Waxweazle/Headbanger). We Have Arrived was probably the first real hardcore track, but the Holy Noise project started pretty soon after that. Same goes for Human Resource (the Pernet brothers), who made one of the biggest classics of all-time called 'Dominator', which defined the sound of Hardcore for years. Before all of this, there was already talking about the harder edge of edm, but this started everything. Holland has always been a big part of it all and there have been arguments about in which city has it all started: Rotterdam or Amsterdam. Rotterdam had the world famous club called Parkzicht, whose resident Dj Rob had an own special and hard sort of track selection and mixing. That place is also to be considered as the cradle of hardcore. Amsterdam had it's own Multigroove-parties, which also played a big role on everything. The first big labels where Rotterdam's own Rotterdam Records, Amsterdam's Mokum Records and Industrial Strength Records from the USA (ran by the legendary Lenny Dee, who started as the Marc Acardipane's Dj).

Will tell some more about the latter history later on, when i have time :P

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WoW very interesting, but does it really matter which city it started in? :+

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I might be wrong, but wasn't the Original Version of Dominator some kind of House?

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MarlboroMan wrote:I might be wrong, but wasn't the Original Version of Dominator some kind of House?
It was the hardcore from then (or Gabber House). On the other hand everything was called house back then in Holland. :+
Jump21 wrote:WoW very interesting, but does it really matter which city it started in? :+
Not really. Or at least i don't think so. :p But there were diss-tracks and such. Rivalry between football clubs became a bigger problem later on as well, next to the regular rivalry

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ah ok, i can understand the football rivalry, must be quite a problem over there.

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Jump21 wrote:WoW very interesting, but does it really matter which city it started in? :+
Well yes, you had 2 big hardcore cities in nl, Rotterdam and Amsterdam. Amsterdam had The Dreamteam and Rotterdam had Rotterdam Records with Paul, Panic and others.

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but this isn't very gabber to me...
Masters of Hardcore is currently the biggest and best-known indie gabber music record label.[citation needed]

Founded in 1995[1] in Zaandam, Netherlands, MOH was set out to revive the then stagnating gabber scene, which was considered watered down and blending into other "non-purist" genres like happy hardcore and hard house.
maybe 1995 was the start of gabber and hardcore(all styles) started in 1990?

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