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Postby D-Vinity » 12 Mar 2010, 01:19

Okay, I've done some research, and now I need your feedback!
I will first write what I can get (because of money)

MacBook Pro
Beyerdynamic DT-48 E / 200 OHM
M-Audio Fast Track Pro
2 x KRK RP6 ROKIT G2 SE
Ableton Live 8 (Box)
Akai APC 40
Akai MPK 49
+ Softsynthies (Hardware is too expensive)

Will this be good enough to produce good tracks?
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Postby Roby31 » 12 Mar 2010, 10:16

Do you have any experience with what you posted? I highly doubt you need a MacBook and an APC
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Postby TakkU » 12 Mar 2010, 11:25

Dallas:Okay, I've done some research, and now I need your feedback!
I will first write what I can get (because of money)

MacBook Pro
Beyerdynamic DT-48 E / 200 OHM
M-Audio Fast Track Pro
2 x KRK RP6 ROKIT G2 SE
Ableton Live 8 (Box)
Akai APC 40
Akai MPK 49
+ Softsynthies (Hardware is too expensive)

Will this be good enough to produce good tracks?

If you get a MacBook Pro, i would recommend Logic rather than Ableton ;)
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Postby Pim » 12 Mar 2010, 12:48

Dallas:Will this be good enough to produce good tracks?


It is not the soft/hardware that makes the music. Its the person who does it so its all up to you ;)
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Postby TakkU » 12 Mar 2010, 13:18

Btw, as a starting producer, there really is no need to get controllers like that Akai ones ;) Just get a nice MIDI keyboard for €100-200 ore something, and maybe get a mixer controller, but as a starter you really don't need stuff like that. Those buttons btw on the APC and MPK are pretty much useless unless you are going to use it for a live performance.. If i were you i would get something cheaper ;)
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Postby SCH » 13 Mar 2010, 15:26

All you need is a computer and monitors.. Unless you really need a MIDI controller... This hardware hype is weird imo..
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Postby Diontjuh » 14 Mar 2010, 02:02

monitors isn't a must even...

although it is HIGHLY advised :p
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Postby Subject Zero » 14 Mar 2010, 02:57

Diontjuh:monitors isn't a must even...

although it is HIGHLY advised :p

Yeah, they are advisable lol. The only hardware i use and can afford are my Alesis monitors, m-audio midi keyboard and external audio interface.

I would not buy any of that to begin producing, apart from the m-audio fast track pro (which i use) and the KRK monitors.

Get yourself some basic software and start learning, from what i've heard Ableton live is complicated for production (especially beginners) and is more useful for djing live. Spending thousands of euros on amazing software and equipment doesnt mean you will produce amazing tracks, you are better to spend less to begin with and as you learn more and have knowledge of production, then start spending money on things which can help you improve.
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Postby malicious_kode » 14 Mar 2010, 09:12

StuartC:from what i've heard Ableton live is complicated for production (especially beginners) and is more useful for djing live.


Live is easy ( (L) Live (L) ). Drag n drop, cut, paste, draw midi notes, record audio, etc. It works like any other sequencer in that respect. I feel it's the other way around, as i can't imagine dj'ing with it.

Oh, and all the cool kids who play cool music in the hottest clubs use it! :roll:

Seriously though, just start with:
1.Plenty of RAM, you'll need it.
2.Decent monitors, the KRK's you mention are fine. Producing in headphones is an exercise in futility (and i know from experience)
3.MIDI keyboard. I use 49 key so i don't have to keep shifting octaves but many use 25 key so whatever works. Knobs and faders will come in handy too.
4.Demo's of softsynths. Try as many as you like but don't buy everything you can get your hands on. Having 4,5,10 synths will distract you. Buy the one or 2 you like best.

Use this basic setup for 6 months then consider buying extra hardware if you need it (you won't). The money you save can be spent on high-grade coke and low-grade women! :whoop:
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Postby D-Vinity » 14 Mar 2010, 18:35

Many thanks for your advises!
I think, I was just confused because of the expensive studio of D-Block & S-Te-Fan (they're my heroes), so I just wanted to have almost the same as they do.
Now I'll do my stuff with FL Studio until I have enough money for a Mac(Book) + evtl. another DAW.
I have 4GBs of RAM, that will do it for now I think.
Next items will be the M-Audio Fast Track Pro and 2 KRK RP6 ROKIT G2 SE, after that I'll get an Akai MPK 49.
Softsynth will be Nexus for now, I really love it.

The money you save can be spent on high-grade coke and low-grade women! :whoop:

Haha, that sounds good too :D
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Postby Subject Zero » 14 Mar 2010, 20:11

malicious_kode:
StuartC:from what i've heard Ableton live is complicated for production (especially beginners) and is more useful for djing live.


Live is easy ( (L) Live (L) ). Drag n drop, cut, paste, draw midi notes, record audio, etc. It works like any other sequencer in that respect. I feel it's the other way around, as i can't imagine dj'ing with it.

Oh, and all the cool kids who play cool music in the hottest clubs use it! :roll:

Seriously though, just start with:
1.Plenty of RAM, you'll need it.
2.Decent monitors, the KRK's you mention are fine. Producing in headphones is an exercise in futility (and i know from experience)
3.MIDI keyboard. I use 49 key so i don't have to keep shifting octaves but many use 25 key so whatever works. Knobs and faders will come in handy too.
4.Demo's of softsynths. Try as many as you like but don't buy everything you can get your hands on. Having 4,5,10 synths will distract you. Buy the one or 2 you like best.

Use this basic setup for 6 months then consider buying extra hardware if you need it (you won't). The money you save can be spent on high-grade coke and low-grade women! :whoop:

Fair enough, i tried to demo like a month ago and found it pretty confusing at first haha. But yeah a lot of people use it for live performance.

@Dallas, yeah d-block & s-te-fan are good but using the same gear as them isnt going to make you a good producer.
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Postby Klingy » 14 Mar 2010, 22:43

Dallas:[...] M-Audio Fast Track Pro [...]

Crap .. I would rather buy a Cakewalk UA-25 EX.
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Postby Subject Zero » 15 Mar 2010, 16:39

Phantomias:
Dallas:[...] M-Audio Fast Track Pro [...]

Crap .. I would rather buy a Cakewalk UA-25 EX.

I heard the Cakewalk UA-25 EX is pretty good, i use an m-audio fast track pro and it does me fine! But yeh there is so many bad reviews of the fast track pro :/
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Postby D-Vinity » 15 Mar 2010, 17:38

StuartC:@Dallas, yeah d-block & s-te-fan are good but using the same gear as them isnt going to make you a good producer.

I know that, I just thought it would be good to start off with "pro equipment".
I was wrong there :dunno:
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Postby Marcotjuh » 19 Mar 2010, 00:01

I say you just start off buying a DECENT pc for producing. A decent pc is a must.

Though I would recommend just using windows, cuz I bet you would use that expensive PC also for normal PC work.
Then pick a daw, FL or Cubase. Try them both out and look wich fits the most. After that, look if you can learn the synthesis theory and the harmonic theory. When in that journy if you really enjoy producing. Try to buy monitors. They arent needed if you produce for fun and just to gain knowledge. (decent normal HiFi speakers are adviced though.) And when you really know eveyrthing about this, you would also get to know if hardware IS useful for you.
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