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Postby Valadia » 30 Apr 2020, 02:40

NS5:Let's forget this new uptempo stuff that many hate. What about older tracks like Unexist & Tommyknocker - Step into our world, Unexist - Attack (Mad Dog Remix), Nosferatu & Neophyte - Daar zijn we weer.
What are they? Uptempo, Frenchcore, terror, maybe just different kind of mainstream?


Definitely not Frenchcore or terror, you could make a case that they'd fit the uptempo class but I'd say only the bpm would meet that 'requirement'. It doesn't have that overly distorted sound and follows a stronger lead throughout the song (if that makes any sense).

There's a difference between a track being uptempo (faster than usual) and uptempo - the genre. All the tracks you named have been released over ten years ago, so normally I'd say they fit in the millennium era. Maybe just fast millennium.
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Postby NEKA » 30 Apr 2020, 03:00

NS5:Let's forget this new uptempo stuff that many hate. What about older tracks like: Unexist & Tommyknocker - Step into our world, Unexist - Attack (Mad Dog Remix), Nosferatu & Neophyte - Daar zijn we weer.
What are they? Uptempo, frenchcore, terror, may be just different kind of mainstream?


Hardcore.
Technically uptempo yes, but waaay different from todays uptempo. ;)

You see, mainstream at high tempo wasn't much of a thing back then, more of an special case.
After "death" of oldschool, producers focused more on harder and slower sounds. There was faster stuff made back then too but it more associated with terror, frenchcore and speedcore.
When rawstyle came along, some listeners wanted harder but faster stuff when hardcore wasn't keeping up. Slowly uptempo became it's own subgenre.

Also one of the reasons it sounded and still sounds amateurish! :+ It's quite an young genre, not too hard to make, takes a lot from hardstyle and rawstyle and was easy money when it hit it's peak!
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Postby NS5 » 30 Apr 2020, 10:48

Thanks

So they are not what is called uptempo today. But I believe word 'uptempo' was used as a subgenre name even 10 years ago.
To this day I'm not sure what 2010s uptempo is and which tracks are examples of it. I always thought it doesn't include frenchcore, and it is more like faster and harder mainstream, but I've never been sure.
Other examples of what I'd call uptempo in 2010s would be Andy The Core - Brutal method (I guess it is closer to todays uptempo?), and his earlier stuff like Andy The Core - Murdermind, Lenny Dee & Radium - Voices (Andy The Core Shut Up Remix). Would be that correct?
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Postby NEKA » 30 Apr 2020, 20:50

Back then uptempo as a term didn't even exist (at least what I know)

The tracks you mentioned are pretty much just mainstream hardcore, but on the harder side. :)
Note that even artists like Unexist, Lenny Dee, Partyraiser etc. were all classified as hardcore, even if their sound was far rougher and sometimes faster than your average producers.

The newer tracks are great examples of when uptempo started to become more regocnisable.
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Postby ThePrincipal » 01 May 2020, 06:33

explaining uptempo?

Frankly it sucks, killed slower hardcore and made mainstream hardcore 15-20bpm higher than it needed to be

how's that for an explanation :rofl: :rofl:
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Postby Future Shokk » 01 May 2020, 14:51

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What defines Uptempo


Horrendous production quality, quantity over quality, absolutely zero originality, the weakest kicks since the cheesiest happy hardcore was around, made for children.


I want to add random generic screeches to your list ^^

Yet i don't mind Uptempo at all if it's done right on a good level of production quality (Audiofreqs Uptempo EP, Imperial tracks, most of Angernoizers stuff for example) But unfortunalety most of the uptempo stuff is still on an absolute horrendous amateur trash level (Monkey Bizness, ghostproduced Estasia crap anyone? :+ )
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Postby lilfrenchidiot » 17 May 2020, 12:24

I'd say NSD, Chaotic Hostility, X-Pander make actual good Hardcore if we're talking Uptempo.

Also, I would put nowadays Detest and The Satan in that category, and they make great stuff imo
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Postby DJConvention » 17 May 2020, 12:36

GPF :+ :fist:
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Postby Future Shokk » 17 Oct 2020, 14:43



Really good produced uptempo tune with a decent tempo and atmosphere and what do i read in the comments by various uptempo drugheads? It's not fast enough :+ What a scene full of dumbfucks :facepalm:
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Postby Payne » 17 Oct 2020, 20:25

Future Shokk:Really good produced uptempo tune with a decent tempo and atmosphere and what do i read in the comments by various uptempo drugheads? It's not fast enough :+ What a scene full of dumbfucks :facepalm:


Most comments are rather positive to be fair. Guess the scene's divided into several groups (just guessing):
1.) The people who like Uptempo because it is an alternative to the more "polished and clean" (mostly Mainstream) Hardcore that emerged with the death of Millennium while offering a more simplistic and straight-forward sound than Industrial and Crossbreed.
2.) People looking for fast alternatives due to the decreasing amount of Speedcore (&similar) productions.
3.) GPF piep-kick casuals
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