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jacktorrance wrote:Yeah I completely changed my mind this summer after going to a couple festivals and listening to the q-base livesets. Hardcore is just as strong as ever. I had a blast listening to some of the newcomers like deadly guns, n-vitral and the melodyst, as well as stuff like access one, anime, tha playah, angerfist and destructive tendencies. Older artists like neophyte and paul elstak also found an excellent way to stay relevant.

I'm pumped!

That being said, frenchcore (sefa) fucking sucks!!!

N-Vitral is not a newcomer.

There's still plenty of good mainstream hardcore around being produced nowadyays but you have to search harder for it because it's not so visible anymore as it used to be because the scene is unfortunalety still being dominated by generic cheap uptempo and frenchcore junk

So, is hc in a bad state? Well i would defo say we had better years but it's still in a decent state as long as quality mainstream hc is around. If the mainstream hc will die and dumptempo and frenchcrap will completely take over it's game over

Sorry, bit late here.

I find it really interesting that people diss frenchcore at parties but can't wait for the metallic, weak as pop raw hardstyle. Oh, but the image is really cool, djs with helmets or masks or whatever they have now.

Even if frenchcore is generic, it's still way harder than a lot of stuff. Call me silly, but hard, repetitive music is exactly what I like.

I guess this is the same conversation as when hardstyle split with raw - very reminiscent of people trying to out-do each other on hardness.

Yea see, nothing in particular.
What really happens is that old generations can't get themselves to enjoy the new sound but they'll just blame it on the sound not being good enough. Even moreso when you look at the segment of those generations that still browses internet forums/communities - its a narrow minority of the crowd.
Same thing that happened in hardstyle over it's many iterations, same with hardcore, trance, and any other genre you can think about.

noiseshock_of wrote:Yea see, nothing in particular.
What really happens is that old generations can't get themselves to enjoy the new sound but they'll just blame it on the sound not being good enough. Even moreso when you look at the segment of those generations that still browses internet forums/communities - its a narrow minority of the crowd.
Same thing that happened in hardstyle over it's many iterations, same with hardcore, trance, and any other genre you can think about.

This. All the time this.