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unless we know MOH's financial situation it's hard to say whether or not they are selling out. They could just be doing it for survival. If MOH is drawing say, 10% less party goers each year, they need to make that up somehow in order to continue doing the same large scale events. unless of course ...

Lol so much emphasis on the "100% HARDCORE" punters. Theres elitist in hardstyle too. And obviously adding a rawstyle stage would add more people, therefore more money... that is just signs of selling out. What if the tables turned... and all of a sudden the Qlimax 2014 anthem was produced...

Yes, I like my hardstyle, but MOH has been around for almost 20 years. They rose from the ashes of the underground, a time when hardcore/gabber was declining in Holland. in the late 90s. They helped the hardcore resurrection in the early 00's. And for them to put a hardstyle stage... is just a spit ...

I think its a spit in the face to the hardcore lovers. Why not include a crossbreed stage instead? Discuss.

As a massive hardcore fan I am dissapointed that MOH has included a raw hardstyle stage in 2014. Yes, I like my hardstyle, but MOH has been around for almost 20 years (2015 will be the 20th anniversary). They rose from the ashes of the underground, a time when hardcore/gabber was declining in Hollan...

I'm guessing NoN is replacing QORE 3.0? Q-Dance never released any info on a 2013 edition :/

Hmmm... I had a feeling that Thunderdome never booked him, all because he's from their main rivals... MOH.

If I recall, Angerfist NEVER played at any Thunderdome event. He's played at Thunderdome stages in Nature One and stuff. But I just want to know why such a huge name like him never played at such an iconic event?

Angerfist & Tieum - DIRTY MAN!
BEEN CRAVING FOR ITS RELEASE!!

I always thought it was about the kick-drum? Hardcore (Dutch) has more of distorted kick than UK Hardcore. But Happy Hardcore (old 90's stuff) is more related to 90's gabber. Fuck, confusing

Been trying to search like a mad man lately. But anyone know where I can watch footage of the first MOH party in Zaandam? Or even some classic 90's MOH parties? Theres heaps of old school Thunderdome ones on Youtube but NONE of the MOH ones. Help would be appreciated

Good riddens, Endymion has been making cheesy, Evil Gaytivity-style tracks. I mean, he was making fucking house bootlegs...? Really? Good addition to Neophyte though, they like that kinda shit. Hopefully Tieum doesn't succumb to cheesy-ness and make good tracks at Neophyte.

Hadn't really seen a hakken topic yet, so might as well bring one up
So whats your hakken style? I prefer the german style, I found it easier and you get loose on those faster bmp's.
Also anyone know the history of this dance and how it came about in the old school gabber days?

110% agreed. With MOH coming to Australia my HC lover has just ejaculated. Hardstyle for me was getting too cheesy especially Wildstylez, I mean yeah, Year of Summer is good when your on pills but other than that its pretty pathetic (Timeless is amazing though for a cheesy track). Also with Headhunt...

Since Thunderdome is having their final event, I decided to to this topic lol. Out of the two Hardcore (indoor) festivals, which one do you guys prefer? I know Thunderdome has a rich history in the Hardcore genre, even help creating the Gabber sub-culture. But according to wikipedia (I know, sometim...