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Looking for a course on additive synthesis to get the sound of the desired tonality + FM synthesis

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Postby novikov433 » 20 Nov 2018, 18:41

Hello! I am looking for methods to correctly combine the semitones in the synthesis of additive before FM, in order to get the desired harmonic of sound to tonality. For example, as rawstyle and other styles of the 90s, when the principle of producing halftone sound production was used.
At random, one gets a very dirty and rassingron timbre, for example, in standard studio citrus when modulating one FM operator with another, the effect is completely different with different harmonics added to the sound.
For example, throw off the track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIDNz4hRdxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykZEa1hgLWc
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Postby Soundphase » 20 Nov 2018, 20:41

Have you used Image-line Morphine? I wouldn't ask for peoples advice, additive synthesis really is a random robotic thing.. You can load a wav sample in morphine and then it will recreate the sound with additive synthesis, you can ascertain the sound then and find out what the partials should look like... I'd stay far, far away from additive synthesis to be honest... you can waste too much time getting small results and it's really not a user friendly form of sound synthesis. The only thing I find useful from it is for recreating bass sound by loading a sample, and then you can pitch it cleanly from the synth since it's not playing the sample anymore
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Postby novikov433 » 22 Nov 2018, 09:16

Soundphase:Have you used Image-line Morphine? I wouldn't ask for peoples advice, additive synthesis really is a random robotic thing.. You can load a wav sample in morphine and then it will recreate the sound with additive synthesis, you can ascertain the sound then and find out what the partials should look like... I'd stay far, far away from additive synthesis to be honest... you can waste too much time getting small results and it's really not a user friendly form of sound synthesis. The only thing I find useful from it is for recreating bass sound by loading a sample, and then you can pitch it cleanly from the synth since it's not playing the sample anymore

Yes, additive synthesis is difficult to understand, but in order to make a sound with a dirty tonality, you need to fine-tune the halftones with different combinations of oscillators, and you just won’t make it possible to make the correct clear sound that it sounded good on different octaves.
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Postby Soundphase » 22 Nov 2018, 12:23

novikov433:
Soundphase:Have you used Image-line Morphine? I wouldn't ask for peoples advice, additive synthesis really is a random robotic thing.. You can load a wav sample in morphine and then it will recreate the sound with additive synthesis, you can ascertain the sound then and find out what the partials should look like... I'd stay far, far away from additive synthesis to be honest... you can waste too much time getting small results and it's really not a user friendly form of sound synthesis. The only thing I find useful from it is for recreating bass sound by loading a sample, and then you can pitch it cleanly from the synth since it's not playing the sample anymore

Yes, additive synthesis is difficult to understand, but in order to make a sound with a dirty tonality, you need to fine-tune the halftones with different combinations of oscillators, and you just won’t make it possible to make the correct clear sound that it sounded good on different octaves.


What about FM synthesis as an alternative? I think it can be fair to say that FM supersedes AM and additive synthesis. So much more intuitive.. You can work differently to achieve bright bright formants and tones.
Is additive synths really necessary, other than Resynthesis?
When does one really need more than 8 sound oscillators to make a tonal sound.. do you really need 100 oscillators? Haha, It's mad science if you ask me

Anyway, maybe have a look at this:
https://ask.video/video/logic-pro-x-210 ... -and-draw-

I think you would like Rob Papen Blue 2, while it's not additive synthesis, you can easily waveshape the oscillators and apply FM modes.
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