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So what? I can always listen to it by myself. I prefer that then listening to a remake 3:15 long in extended version. Unlike a lot of stuff from that era (sorry dbstf), the saifam stuff has always been top notch quality and doesn't really need an update because of the 'production quality' reasons at all.

spitles wrote:imagine this tune with phat 2k20 raw keks and more funny sound tweekz

hmmmmm

Soduku wrote:Of course they are good enough as they are. But this is about "...deserve an update" not "...need an update". In my opinion too many classic tracks are neglected because they just don't fit into the current style of the set. I actually never heard a Dark Oscillators track live in the last years

ceero wrote:So what? I can always listen to it by myself.

I think the point Soduku was trying to make was a desire to hear it live (club/festival) and not at home. New remakes, reissues or remixes can thereby increase the chance of that happening.

This is an excellent topic btw.

Very out of touch with reality, but what is the barrier to playing the originals out at a club?

The Blaster wrote:Very out of touch with reality, but what is the barrier to playing the originals out at a club?

I think artists have a certain set time and want to promote themselves aswell as being "on top" by playing mainly new and even unheard tracks. This limits the possibility of older tracks in a set and then we basically get the same 4-5 all year

THIS track but updated with kicks like from PN & B-Front - The Solution, or just that weird Rawphoric kick that Sub Sonik used to implement. A half-decent punchy kick but with a strong crunchy tail would do this melody pure justice

The Blaster wrote:Very out of touch with reality, but what is the barrier to playing the originals out at a club?

the artists think they sound shit. Not sure why they don't just embrace them for what they are and how they were made at the time. Old tunes can fit anywhere if you think carefully enough on where to place them, but people can't be fucked doing it much anymore and use the "it sounds shit" excuse.

ThePrincipal wrote:

The Blaster wrote:Very out of touch with reality, but what is the barrier to playing the originals out at a club?

the artists think they sound shit. Not sure why they don't just embrace them for what they are and how they were made at the time. Old tunes can fit anywhere if you think carefully enough on where to place them, but people can't be fucked doing it much anymore and use the "it sounds shit" excuse.

So true, unfortunately.

People like The Panacea can fit neurofunk, techno, hardstyle, dubstep and hardcore in one set.

People like Geck-O can fit obscure disco stuff, japanese nrg rave, techno, trance and 7 other genres in one set.

A hardstyle dj can not fit 2010 and 2020 hardstyle together in one set.

ceero wrote:People like The Panacea can fit neurofunk, techno, hardstyle, dubstep and hardcore in one set.

People like Geck-O can fit obscure disco stuff, japanese nrg rave, techno, trance and 7 other genres in one set.

A hardstyle dj can not fit 2010 and 2020 hardstyle together in one set.

I kinda agree with this, but it would be better if the Hardstyle community was not so allergic to diversity in sets (oh besides Uptempo and Frenchcore of course).

I mean even besides old Hardstyle vs new Hardstyle (I know I’m getting offtopic), a guy like Noisecontrollers should be able to play Dubstep for example.