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Postby Speaker Freq » 04 Dec 2011, 00:05

It's different to everybody, so it might make an interesting discussion

To some it's a punchy kick and tight reverse bass. To some it's crunch. Others screech, aggressive vocals, deep bass, or the general adrenaline from listening to your fav music, and much more.

What is it to you?
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Postby atomicoz » 04 Dec 2011, 00:24

I think this one could work better. Just give your views on what hard is for you, and if you want to comment someone else's view make sure to do it in a constructive and non-condescending way :)

FYI: Removed some of the replies that were discussing about whether the topic should be or shouldn't be locked. (Just so it's not filled with other stuff and can get back on track to its rootzz)
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Postby Prozel » 04 Dec 2011, 00:54

Dongs! :P
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Postby malicious_kode » 04 Dec 2011, 01:41

Mmm, potential for an interesting discussion here- certainly got me thinking about some things and I don't think I could give a definitive answer right now, by which I mean- I could, but given the number of thoughts in my head after just two minutes of consideration I would imagine that to do so would require an... extended post (one of those ones I spend hours writing, structuring and formatting- as though those who read it may actually give a fuck). But I cbf to do that right now as it's time-consuming and hard... err, wait... perhaps difficult would be the more appropriate term to use for now. I'll do it later if I feel like it.

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Postby Tisch » 04 Dec 2011, 01:43

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Postby Caution:Raw » 04 Dec 2011, 01:46

Jump21:

so as you people see... Relying to my first post here I pronounce Basshunter harder than Wildstylez/Noisecontrollerz and such

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Postby Shadow Interaction » 04 Dec 2011, 01:53

you can't define hard when everyone has their own taste :)
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Postby Subject Zero » 04 Dec 2011, 02:11

Holy fuck i can't believe i actually like some of those Basshunter tracks LOL. Didn't realise he made tracks like that
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Postby timdawes » 04 Dec 2011, 02:39

malicious_kode:*waits for Tim to make a post filled with innuendo*


hahahaha. you took the only joke i would've used.

and agree with pithune. what is hard for me is not hard for other people, and vice versa. it's hard to put a definition on what hard actually is, because while i might like big, deep, throbbing dongs with screeches, someone else might required a gated kick and screeches, while another might require a reverse bass with screeches to define it as hard.
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Postby malicious_kode » 04 Dec 2011, 02:43

timdawes:...big, deep, throbbing dongs...


...and there it is.
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Postby Speaker Freq » 04 Dec 2011, 02:49

FYI: Removed some of the replies that were discussing about whether the topic should be or shouldn't be locked. (Just so it's not filled with other stuff and can get back on track to its rootzz)

lol it might be nice to remove all those basshunter posts too :+

Pithune:you can't define hard when everyone has their own taste :)

I'm not trying to find out 'the universal meaning/rules of hard for all hardstyle, forever', it's just a topic where people can post their views (without attacking other ppl's views) so readers can see things from their perspective. This was not meant to start any arguments.
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Postby DjPractice » 04 Dec 2011, 03:02

Gated kicks for sure - always has been and always will be.

thing is, some of these tracks that are "dong' like can have a lot of foundation underneath the initial dong (ie another kick or just an absolute shitload of bass - ie to Protect and Serve, Fragments, Psycho) - so they are just as hard as the gated kick tracks

its a track by track thing for me in terms of defining 'hard' - but I know it when i hear it :)
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Postby Ferren » 04 Dec 2011, 03:05

Good distorted kick is something I define Hard.
In general, if the sounddesign of the track is using aggressive synths, then I define it hard.
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Postby Subject Zero » 04 Dec 2011, 04:42

Speaker Freq:
FYI: Removed some of the replies that were discussing about whether the topic should be or shouldn't be locked. (Just so it's not filled with other stuff and can get back on track to its rootzz)

lol it might be nice to remove all those basshunter posts too :+

Why? The 2 with hardstyle in their name are hardstyle tracks.


I also agree with Pratice, gated kicks are usually brutal, especially at an event. Much harder than pitched kicks where the bass disappears when it pitches high
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