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Mixing Hardcore - no beatmatching needed?

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Dj Reaper
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Mixing Hardcore - no beatmatching needed?

Post by Dj Reaper »

Hi,
first of all, don´t flame on me or anything, I yesterday finally found time to start practising DJing but am still at the very beginning and start understanding what the controls do.
I listened to some Angerfist Mixes (I aim mainly at mixing Mainstream Hardcore) and what I found out he seems to do is having 2 tracks and wait until one track screams something and than put in the drop of the other track (basically that can be done with the 2 volume faders I guess).
Another technique is also just when the climax of one track finishes he puts the break of another track in.
Only thing confusig me is how he can have three tracks going on. Like one plays a melody, than you hear the vocal of another and than the drop of a third track, but I will find that out with time.
And basically after he made the transition form one track to the other he chills behind the decks until one track finishes the climax and than he drops in another one again.

Here is an example of what his mixing sounds like:


Are there some other techniques used? Could you perhaps tell me what you do when mixing hardcore (live), so that I know what I have to practise? As said I hear no beatmatching, but that would also sound impossible to me, as the kicks have a certain pitch and when clashing I guess it would sound horrible.

Anyway, what I plan doing now is taking 4 Angerfist tracks which I know well, set some que points and than try to make the transitions as said, so that I can finally start actually mixing music. Yesterday I tried with house music but than I had 2 tracks playing at the same speed but completely different sounding melodies and thought oh wtf shall I do now..Hardcore seems easier to mix ;)

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Post by Que-Dee »

Dj Reaper wrote: Only thing confusig me is how he can have three tracks going on. Like one plays a melody, than you hear the vocal of another and than the drop of a third track, but I will find that out with time.
And basically after he made the transition form one track to the other he chills behind the decks until one track finishes the climax and than he drops in another one again.
Basically, Angerfist made the mix you posted in a program, not live! ;)

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Post by Dj Reaper »

Hmm, but I think it would sound good also live this way, wouldn´t it? Or what would be the differences in mixing? I mean how would one change from one song to another if not how he does it here without creating dissonances, rhythm issues and that stuff.

Isn´t it that way that a Dj when he knows he has to spin somewhere gets to know the time, calculates how many and which songs he will play in which order, stets some cue points in the songs and than when he plays live just has to make the transitions in the right moment, maybe improvide a bit, loop some sounds and vocals and so on.
Sorry for being so ignorant but I really have no DJing experience yet.

EDIT:
I found this one:


Seems a bit more complicated, and I can hear some beatmatching too.

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Post by Snap »

As for mixing the house music, you need to mix the non-melodic bits or find ones with keys that match -it's the same with any genre, if anything house should be easier to mix because the intros are longer and it's typically a bit more minimal than hardcore.

Even if this just cuts between tracks, it's still in beat, you'd have to either beatmatch that in your headphones then cut across or it'd sound totally wrong. Though yea he probably made this in Ableton

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