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Postby Shadow Interaction » 03 Feb 2015, 00:44

I've been dealing with this issue for quite some time and I have no idea how to solve it. When playing tracks on my CDJ's it often switches to the bpm extremely from like 170 to suddenly 87 for example. sometimes tracks start off with the first number and halfway through they change into the other.
This is extremely annoying cause it leaves me in the blind when it comes to beat matching.

does anyone else have this problem? tried to solve it with Rekordbox but also there the BPM's are way different in numbers
I use a pair of CDJ 350 with DJM 700 mixer

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Postby Musical Madness » 03 Feb 2015, 01:00

Try changing the analyze mode from dynamic to normal (you can find it in the settings > anaylze menu) and then rescan all your tracks. Should fix the problem.
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Postby Shadow Interaction » 03 Feb 2015, 01:04

Musical Madness:Try changing the analyze mode from dynamic to normal (you can find it in the settings > anaylze menu) and then rescan all your tracks. Should fix the problem.

i've already tried it, the analyze mode is by default normal. it didn't fix it. thanks for suggesting
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Postby Zak » 03 Feb 2015, 01:09

I have allready seen this, it usually divided the BPM exactly by 2 when they were "too high". Don't know how to fix it tho
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Postby D-Verze » 03 Feb 2015, 09:41

Indeed, 85 and 170 would in principle be the same bpm. Haven't had this problem with my 350s tho. Tried updating the frimware?
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Postby Cykain » 03 Feb 2015, 14:05

How to solve it ? learn to beatmatch with your ears instead of your eyes...
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Postby Shadow Interaction » 03 Feb 2015, 14:15

Cykain:How to solve it ? learn to beatmatch with your ears instead of your eyes...

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i don't want to learn how to beatmatch, certainly not after 8 years of dj'ing. i want my gear to show correct data so i can focus my mixing on different stuff instead of constantly having my hand on the pitch fader because "it might not be accurate enough". sometimes, for a mix transition I don't even have enough time for that and having CDJ's display 2 extremely different BPM's can be frustrating as hell. how extreme? read the first post

Darycka:Indeed, 85 and 170 would in principle be the same bpm. Haven't had this problem with my 350s tho. Tried updating the frimware?

I'd like to put my attention on mixing not math when i'm busy, but the firmware update is a good idea! I have never done that so i'll give it a try :)
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Postby Shadow Interaction » 03 Feb 2015, 15:58

i've updated the firmware, which is a good thing! unfortunately it didn't solve the bpm problem :(
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Postby Shadow Interaction » 03 Feb 2015, 20:15

trying the math way works very good! thanks :) but still, it would be easier to have both bpm's showing the same instead of halved
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Postby Zak » 04 Feb 2015, 03:56

I'm starting to think that the people who created those DJ software weren't aware that some music genre goes beyong 130 bpm.
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Postby Musical Madness » 05 Feb 2015, 02:52

To get the facts right: It's switching BPM within one song? Or is it just that some songs have half the tempo? Because then you can easily double the tempo in the grid setting of each song.
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Postby Shadow Interaction » 05 Feb 2015, 13:14

Musical Madness:To get the facts right: It's switching BPM within one song? Or is it just that some songs have half the tempo? Because then you can easily double the tempo in the grid setting of each song.

^ it's both actually, they are half the tempo.. which is good that i figured out, since mixing with that logic went pretty good... but sometimes it does switch the bpm to that half a beat while playing. also, sometimes it goes up and down from out of nowhere. however that is not extreme, just a few numbers.

how do you do that grid part btw?
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Postby Musical Madness » 05 Feb 2015, 18:07

Shadow Interaction:^ it's both actually, they are half the tempo.. which is good that i figured out, since mixing with that logic went pretty good... but sometimes it does switch the bpm to that half a beat while playing. also, sometimes it goes up and down from out of nowhere. however that is not extreme, just a few numbers.

how do you do that grid part btw?



Could also be an issue of the CDJ 350 cuz I never experienced that with the 2000 Nexus. Not even with Trap / Dubstep / DNB.

Best method to adjust the grid is switching to singe player view (top right next to the volume setting) and then click on "GRID" next to the play button. There you'll find all the tools you need :)

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Postby Shadow Interaction » 24 Mar 2015, 22:32

so... isn't there anyway to fix this? it's still getting on my nerves, I can hardly make a proper mix because of this
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