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Postby ChristianHardstyle » 18 May 2017, 20:39

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Hi everyone, if you don't know me i'm Christian/Sunriser from Italy and i used to be active on this forum until 1-2 years ago when i slowly stopped posting here.
I will start saying that i love hardstyle, it is and it will always be my favourite musical genre, but i lost interest in the new trends. Sadly, i stuck where i fall in love with it, in 2007-2009 period. When i was younger i wrote many things against the new tracks and how i did not like them, but with time i realized that i couldn't do anything. So now i only listen to the tracks that i love and i don't post anymore. The new division between extraraw and euphoric (if it is still like this, i think so) is something i can't handle. I love hardstyle. Only pure hardstyle, and it doesn't exist anymore. So basically that's why i'm out as an active fan.
I also used to produce hardstyle, and i achieved much more than what i was expecting: i got one track released on a label, it got #1 on harddance chart on trackitdown (i can't believe someone bought my track), i got my track played in a festival in UK, i saw every comment people posted on my tracks and i really really appreciated every one of them (the best one was when one guy told me 'if you would have been around 10 years ago, you would have been a Tracid Traxx superstar'. Thanks man by far the best comment i have ever received). But we all know how hard it is to emerge in this world. In Italy hardstyle basically doesn't exist. To be known you must post a lot on social medias and i never did that. Of course there are plenty of producers whose sound design is 10 times better than mine, but i don't see many who are creative or try to innovate. I produced what i liked, and when you see people always copying each other, making all the same tracks and making a lot of views more than you, you have to decide if you want to copy them too or stay where you are. I stayed loyal to my music (i repeat, many people are better to produce than me, i'm not the best but i was original, or at least i tried). So i sadly stopped producing hardstyle, the tracks i posted the last 2 years were made a long time ago, but i wanted to publish them. I have other tracks almost ready and maybe i will post them. Now i produce rap/trap beats, something that here is very popular and i really enjoy it, so at least my love for producing is not gone 100%.
Maybe this will be one of my lastest post here since i don't visit this site much anymore, and i wanted to thank James (Nutty T) for letting me releasing one track on his label, Matevz Jeran (PowerHardstyle) who posted my tracks on his channel everytime, and everyone who played/downloaded/bought my tracks. I hope you will keep listening to them so my music won't be completely dead.
If you want some unreleased tracks of mine, write to me and i will send them to you. If you want to keep following me with my rap experiment, i will post something here when i have something ready.
One day i will visit a hardstyle gig, i promised my self. Thanks again everyone for you support, i love and always will love hardstyle music, but i'm not a member of this world anymore. Au revoir.

Christian/Sunriser
--- Retired producer from Italy who loves reverse bass ---
Sunriser - http://www.soundcloud.com/sunriserdj
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Postby wildtsylez_1990 » 19 May 2017, 08:37

au revoir.
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Postby noiseshock_of » 19 May 2017, 21:54

Take it as advice / red pill:

As an artist its important to understand that if you want to be relevant to a scene, you will need to accept the scene, the crowd and the times as they are NOW. The sound is indeed split, social media is indeed very important, so is sound design, and innovation indeed doesn't matter. Take it or leave it. Such a thing as "pure hardstyle" never existed, maybe you have an idea of what YOU consider "pure hardstyle" as each person has, but truth is that the genre didn't just appear out of nowhere, just like all genres it's born as combination of influences evolving over time, and I say this as a big fan of the 2006-2010 sound.

Production wise: sound design IS important in modern hardstyle, more than being "original". Your sound needs to be on par with today's standards because that's the actual seal of quality.

Doing what you like is important, sticking to your ideals, staying true to yourself and all the motivating stuff as well... But if you want to be relevant in a scene, you will need to give in (to certain extent) and please SOME of the people's interests. Find a balance between pleasing your interests and pleasing people. If you don't accept the sound splitting, you only like an old form of hardstyle, and you give social media the attention it needs (which is a lot nowadays, like it or not)... Then how do you even expect to get your name outhere?!
With all respect to the names, labels and market you mentioned... If you want to make a career out of today's scene, it's close to impossible outside the Dutch market and the main recordlabels.

If you see it from the 'success'/career point of view - it's not about being "true to yourself", loyal, moral, whatever. If those things are your priority, you can always just make music for fun and the pure joy of it... BUT to be relevant and known in the scene, you must insert your product in the demand/supply circle.
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Postby ChristianHardstyle » 23 May 2017, 21:32

noiseshock_of:Take it as advice / red pill:

As an artist its important to understand that if you want to be relevant to a scene, you will need to accept the scene, the crowd and the times as they are NOW. The sound is indeed split, social media is indeed very important, so is sound design, and innovation indeed doesn't matter. Take it or leave it. Such a thing as "pure hardstyle" never existed, maybe you have an idea of what YOU consider "pure hardstyle" as each person has, but truth is that the genre didn't just appear out of nowhere, just like all genres it's born as combination of influences evolving over time, and I say this as a big fan of the 2006-2010 sound.

Production wise: sound design IS important in modern hardstyle, more than being "original". Your sound needs to be on par with today's standards because that's the actual seal of quality.

Doing what you like is important, sticking to your ideals, staying true to yourself and all the motivating stuff as well... But if you want to be relevant in a scene, you will need to give in (to certain extent) and please SOME of the people's interests. Find a balance between pleasing your interests and pleasing people. If you don't accept the sound splitting, you only like an old form of hardstyle, and you give social media the attention it needs (which is a lot nowadays, like it or not)... Then how do you even expect to get your name outhere?!
With all respect to the names, labels and market you mentioned... If you want to make a career out of today's scene, it's close to impossible outside the Dutch market and the main recordlabels.

If you see it from the 'success'/career point of view - it's not about being "true to yourself", loyal, moral, whatever. If those things are your priority, you can always just make music for fun and the pure joy of it... BUT to be relevant and known in the scene, you must insert your product in the demand/supply circle.

Yes you basically repeated what i said :) i know no one knows me or is sad because i'm not producing anymore, but i made this post just to express my feelings to someone. But i don't like what you have to do to get known, so maybe i like to be unknown, who knows ;) ;)
The only thing i don't agree with you is that hardstyle never was pure. It was, somewhen in 2007 :listen: :listen:

Edit: just saw i received a message from a guy who said "is sad because i stopped producing" (his words). Maybe social media is not that important if even one person likes your tracks, and for me that's enough :)
--- Retired producer from Italy who loves reverse bass ---
Sunriser - http://www.soundcloud.com/sunriserdj
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