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Postby Soundphase » 01 Sep 2016, 17:09

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Soundphase:hope someone knows the answer to this
- with an unmastered track, at what db volume should the hardstyle kick be playing at for an acceptable loudness and for ultimately a good mix?

with a hardstyle or hardcore kick I'm unsure of the link between too quiet and too loud since the mids in the kick can be quite harsh if played too loud in headphones


the mix is the audio version of the theory of relativity. how loud should the kick be? that doesn't really matter as long as it's loud enough to overcome the volume related bit depth reduction of your DAW and anything over -20dB should be more than fine. even then the whole bit depth reduction might be more related to older DAWs than to today. to digress back to the relativity stuff, the volume of the kick doesn't really matter....what matters is it's relative volume and tonality against your other instruments. typically though, mine seem to sit around -12dB and can bump up to -8dB some times

tldr: as long as you make a well balanced mix, it doesn't matter how loud the kick is

I see, thanks guys. overthinking on my part then I guess, finding it comfortable to work with a kick level of -5 to -10db just because I don't have to go adjusting the volume knob on the audio interface all the time.
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Postby CAP » 01 Sep 2016, 18:42

Soundphase:
CAP:
Soundphase:hope someone knows the answer to this
- with an unmastered track, at what db volume should the hardstyle kick be playing at for an acceptable loudness and for ultimately a good mix?

with a hardstyle or hardcore kick I'm unsure of the link between too quiet and too loud since the mids in the kick can be quite harsh if played too loud in headphones


the mix is the audio version of the theory of relativity. how loud should the kick be? that doesn't really matter as long as it's loud enough to overcome the volume related bit depth reduction of your DAW and anything over -20dB should be more than fine. even then the whole bit depth reduction might be more related to older DAWs than to today. to digress back to the relativity stuff, the volume of the kick doesn't really matter....what matters is it's relative volume and tonality against your other instruments. typically though, mine seem to sit around -12dB and can bump up to -8dB some times

tldr: as long as you make a well balanced mix, it doesn't matter how loud the kick is

I see, thanks guys. overthinking on my part then I guess, finding it comfortable to work with a kick level of -5 to -10db just because I don't have to go adjusting the volume knob on the audio interface all the time.


depending on your DAW, you might be able to have monitor control in your DAW. for example i use Cubase and there's what they call the "control room" panel that fits on the mix window. this allows me to control level as well as monitor selection and flip the mix from stereo to mono easily. There's also a spot for a couple inserts so I have analyzers and a brickwall to protect my monitors. this allows signal to come out of my interface at full volume and i don't have to reach over all the time
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