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Postby Emre » 12 Mar 2013, 13:07

I don't know if this in the right topic, but I have a huge, obsessive love for edm music. Specifically hardstyle, but also electro/house/progressive house/sometimes dubstep/complextro etc. Now I'm not focused alot on anything else than hardstyle, but simply love it all, so, what are good plugins to download or buy to make electro/complextro-ish tracks, with alot of sounds which flow together very well, and what do I need to know? I'm not a guy that dreams about getting popular or something, but I want to let out my emotions in my music. I never produced before, except opening fl studio and making basic melody's, but i REALLY want to try.

I'm a fan of tracks with high production quality, that sound 'difficult' to make. Complex etc. Like Bas Oskam/TVDS, you know what I mean. Technic tracks.

tl;dr:

What do I need to know about notes/rhythm/which plugins I need to get if I want to make Electro/Progressive house/complextro?

THANKS alot.

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Postby Digital Audio Tape » 12 Mar 2013, 13:12

another forms? i thought this thread will be like "hey, i only have a sledgehammer, an acoustic guitar, a panflute, and a 10-year old computer, how can i creat an EDM-track using only these things?"... and you're asking about plugins... come on, man! don't be so misleading!
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Postby Digital Audio Tape » 12 Mar 2013, 13:54

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that will make it complete :+
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Postby Emre » 12 Mar 2013, 14:27

hmm its hard to give a normal answer ..?
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Postby zanshi » 12 Mar 2013, 15:20

for my ambient stuff i use a lot of unprocessed recordings that i timestretch to hell and back
for trance and electro you're pretty set with the same synths as you have them in hardstyle
what's more important is to learn different structures and different sound design
nexus, massive, sylenth, etc are used in pretty much every genre right now, even hip hop
another good example is how people make ALL kinds of music with reason,
which used to be just limited to it's own VSTs without any option to "upgrade"

think like that: if you have canvas and paint the style is just up to you :3

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Postby Fission » 12 Mar 2013, 18:02

As for plugins, I'd recommend Massive. FM synthesis is even more awesome for electro basslines, but also a lot harder. Also you can make awesome stuff using a vocal to modulate a bass through a vocoder(kinda the same idea as with FM synthesis) but again, that kinda stuff is a bit more advanced.
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Postby nuttyt » 12 Mar 2013, 18:18

With my trance and house releases, I also use the same plugins eg: Sylenth, V-station, Massive are all good.
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Postby Emre » 12 Mar 2013, 18:22

I have Massive and Sylenth1. The problem is, I have no idea what I'm doing. I can watch tutorials, turn some knobs etc and make a melody. But I have no idea what I just did. I need to learn knowledge about synthesis, music production etc.. are there any cursusses in NL? I also don't have a problem with reading alot of theory. Any help is welcome :)
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Postby nuttyt » 12 Mar 2013, 18:34

Tbh some things are just trial and error, its always good to use tutorials but they only take you so far.
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Postby Emre » 12 Mar 2013, 18:38

nuttyt:Tbh some things are just trial and error, its always good to use tutorials but they only take you so far.


Yeah but I don't think I will get far if I turn knobs till it sounds right, but don't know what the knob actually is for. I don't know all those names , how it's called and what it does etc. I need some knowledge :P
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Postby nuttyt » 12 Mar 2013, 18:54

Well often people find the ADSR controls the hardest to grasp
which is Attack, Decay, Sustain & Release.

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Attack is the switch that tells you the time of when it gets to the maximum point

Decay is the switch that tells you the time when it goes down from the maximum point

Sustain is the switch that tells you the level of the sound you hold your note for

Release is the switch that tells you the time of the volume to hit zero, so a high release will carry on after the note has been played.
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Postby zanshi » 12 Mar 2013, 19:00

i highly reccommend you the synth guide i wrote like two years ago...
tutorials-f22/synthesizers-and-how-they-work-t7047.html
i have an extended 13-page version in german in case you understand german.
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Postby Fission » 12 Mar 2013, 19:03

Well just google around on synthesis, shouldn't be too hard to find articles or video about that. May be a bit boring but in the end it's worth it. The most basic thing you need to know is that the input of a synth is the note you hit, that "information" goes to an oscillator(or usually several oscillators)(where you select the waveform, its octave, detuning etc), then goes through a filter and from there to an amp and the output is the sound you get. Usually in the meantime it'll go through some fx aswel. If you know how the signal "flows" it should be doable to just look at the synth and think through how it kinda works. Massive is kinda cool for that, if you go to the routing tab you can really see how the signal goes from input to output. But then again, this is just a really short kinda summarizing loads of information so the best thing you could do would be to watch some tutorials that actually explain synthesis rather than showing around which knobs to tweak.
nuttyt:Well often people find the ADSR controls the hardest to grasp
which is Attack, Decay, Sustain & Release.

I find that pretty much the easiest to be honest. :P
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Postby nuttyt » 12 Mar 2013, 19:06

haha yea ive had so many people ask me what attack does though
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