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Postby Xenon96 » 17 Aug 2013, 18:40

I thought it would be nice to have a topic where we post the best moments here on Harderstate. Like these:

Tomorrowland 2013 chat


Reverze 2013 chat


Decibel 2013 chat


DAT & the pedobear


Tim's thongs
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Postby Jay » 17 Aug 2013, 18:42

Dang, now i have to search my picture-archives :+
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Postby Subject Zero » 17 Aug 2013, 19:29

Tim's "thongs" :+
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Postby Xenon96 » 17 Aug 2013, 19:33

Jay:Dang, now i have to search my picture-archives :+

I hope you find something good :D
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Postby Xenon96 » 17 Aug 2013, 19:37

Subject Zero:Tim's "thongs" :+

Where, I missed that :(
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Postby Jay » 17 Aug 2013, 19:43

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Postby zanshi » 17 Aug 2013, 22:13

that one time when i got so excited frontliner was on air.
oh wait that was every time :+
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Postby P.L.K » 18 Aug 2013, 01:14

haha :D yes Im in there x)

Btw anybody have the screenshots from DQ.1 MC Whitenoise ?
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Postby GamerZoneUSA » 18 Aug 2013, 02:38

Tomorrowland 2013 chat... Image The hand thing c;
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Postby R3cl41m3r » 18 Aug 2013, 04:44

Anyone remember this guy? :+
hardstylah:My opinion: If you don't know EXACTLY what you're doing, then stay the hell away from all the knobs and buttons, and ESPECIALLY low-end cheapo amateur shit like Junglist or Zeta or anything else.

Only a few people in the world know how to make a nu-kick, even Blutonium Boy doesn't know how do it, and he's a very experienced man! (Part of the reason Blutonium Boy retired is because he hasn't been able to keep up with the times. His Vol.1+2 Blutonium Samples CDs don't contain any Nu-style samples, and his Soundset for Metrum VST is oldskool Hardstyle, so he doesn't have these skills unfortunately.)

In summary, what I'm trying to say is this: Don't even try to get anywhere by youself, because Nu-kicks are an extremely difficult thing to accomplish, and you'll only give yourself a headache. Your song is only as strong as its weakest element. If your Nu-kick isn't EXACTLY 100% right, you will be VERY frustrated.

There are 2 options.

1) There is a soundset called Nu-Style Invasion, made by Dutch producers (http://www.hardsamples.com/) It contains ~30 Nu-kicks, packed as SoundFonts (.SF) that you can play on different notes, and it costs around 50 EUR.

http://www.hardsamples.com/hardstyle-sa ... -p-68.html (Vol.1)
http://www.hardsamples.com/hardstyle-sa ... -p-82.html (Vol.2)

It's not that great. They only managed to get maybe 70% of the way there, but not 100%. However, it's pretty close. Their sounds are very, very dry and painful, although they have a good bass and punch. A lot of EQ work would be needed. But at least someone's already done the hard work of the punch/subbass/distbass. This is perhaps the only sample pack available right now that's more-or-less "OK" (but still not good).

However, that's not what I recommend. I recommend Option #2 if you really want professional results.

2) Rip (that's right, rip) a Nu-Kick from a professional commercial track. And then pitch it in SoundForge, which has an excellent Pitch-Bender. That's what I do in my tracks and it sounds good. Don't pitch the very beginning of the sample (which is the punch), leave the punch as is; only pitch the bass-tail immediately following the punch.

SoundForge has a couple algorithms and anti-aliasing to ensure good pitching. It's very good (H) You need to check the box that says "Preserve Original Length" when pitching, that way all the notes will be equal in length.

There is also Option #3. It's impractical for most of us, but I mention it here because it exists:

3) Virus TI (i.e. hardware). Virus comes with good Nu-punches out of the box. I've heard that Scantraxx artists use Virus, it's not hard to program Nu-kicks there, in fact there's a YouTube video that shows it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9PEJ4551V4

also check out some of these Virus forum links
http://www.access-music.de/forum/index. ... ostID=6628
http://www.infekted.org/virus/showthread.php?p=296005

Unfortunately the Virus costs 1500 EUR and you might still have to learn some skills before getting anything good out of it.

SO the verdict, for the 90% of us who are beginner/intermediate producers of Nu-style, is Option #2. The only way to get satisfying results, right now, is to rip existing pro nu-kicks and pitch them with a good pitchbender (I recommend SoundForge for best results).

Take note: Even Manuel Schleis ("Vengeance") had trouble with these Nu-kicks and couldn't include them in his new VST, Metrum. He has a Hardstyle Expansion for Metrum but it sucks for Nu-Style, it only has oldskool sounds that no one's interested in anymore.

If even the world's top professional can't provide a single (!) good Nu-Kick sample, then there's really no hope for an intermediate or beginner person, so it's best to work with what we've got. Or, if you really want a super-solution, get a Virus.

But for god's sakes please don't use low-quality amateur VST-shitware like Junglist or Hydra or Camel Phat FX or whatever, it's all a bunch of crap and will only muddy up your mix and make it sound piss-poor.
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Postby soepa » 18 Aug 2013, 07:31

once i posted a gif of George Costanza eating popcorn when nikkita argued with several people in a thread about if hhz has left scantraxx. unfortunately someone deleted it. anyway i got a pm sent to me saying im a hero for doing that, so i guess i am a hero then (H)
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Postby Xenon96 » 18 Aug 2013, 13:25

R3cl41m3r:Anyone remember this guy? :+
hardstylah:
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My opinion: If you don't know EXACTLY what you're doing, then stay the hell away from all the knobs and buttons, and ESPECIALLY low-end cheapo amateur shit like Junglist or Zeta or anything else.

Only a few people in the world know how to make a nu-kick, even Blutonium Boy doesn't know how do it, and he's a very experienced man! (Part of the reason Blutonium Boy retired is because he hasn't been able to keep up with the times. His Vol.1+2 Blutonium Samples CDs don't contain any Nu-style samples, and his Soundset for Metrum VST is oldskool Hardstyle, so he doesn't have these skills unfortunately.)

In summary, what I'm trying to say is this: Don't even try to get anywhere by youself, because Nu-kicks are an extremely difficult thing to accomplish, and you'll only give yourself a headache. Your song is only as strong as its weakest element. If your Nu-kick isn't EXACTLY 100% right, you will be VERY frustrated.

There are 2 options.

1) There is a soundset called Nu-Style Invasion, made by Dutch producers (http://www.hardsamples.com/) It contains ~30 Nu-kicks, packed as SoundFonts (.SF) that you can play on different notes, and it costs around 50 EUR.

http://www.hardsamples.com/hardstyle-sa ... -p-68.html (Vol.1)
http://www.hardsamples.com/hardstyle-sa ... -p-82.html (Vol.2)

It's not that great. They only managed to get maybe 70% of the way there, but not 100%. However, it's pretty close. Their sounds are very, very dry and painful, although they have a good bass and punch. A lot of EQ work would be needed. But at least someone's already done the hard work of the punch/subbass/distbass. This is perhaps the only sample pack available right now that's more-or-less "OK" (but still not good).

However, that's not what I recommend. I recommend Option #2 if you really want professional results.

2) Rip (that's right, rip) a Nu-Kick from a professional commercial track. And then pitch it in SoundForge, which has an excellent Pitch-Bender. That's what I do in my tracks and it sounds good. Don't pitch the very beginning of the sample (which is the punch), leave the punch as is; only pitch the bass-tail immediately following the punch.

SoundForge has a couple algorithms and anti-aliasing to ensure good pitching. It's very good (H) You need to check the box that says "Preserve Original Length" when pitching, that way all the notes will be equal in length.

There is also Option #3. It's impractical for most of us, but I mention it here because it exists:

3) Virus TI (i.e. hardware). Virus comes with good Nu-punches out of the box. I've heard that Scantraxx artists use Virus, it's not hard to program Nu-kicks there, in fact there's a YouTube video that shows it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9PEJ4551V4

also check out some of these Virus forum links
http://www.access-music.de/forum/index. ... ostID=6628
http://www.infekted.org/virus/showthread.php?p=296005

Unfortunately the Virus costs 1500 EUR and you might still have to learn some skills before getting anything good out of it.

SO the verdict, for the 90% of us who are beginner/intermediate producers of Nu-style, is Option #2. The only way to get satisfying results, right now, is to rip existing pro nu-kicks and pitch them with a good pitchbender (I recommend SoundForge for best results).

Take note: Even Manuel Schleis ("Vengeance") had trouble with these Nu-kicks and couldn't include them in his new VST, Metrum. He has a Hardstyle Expansion for Metrum but it sucks for Nu-Style, it only has oldskool sounds that no one's interested in anymore.

If even the world's top professional can't provide a single (!) good Nu-Kick sample, then there's really no hope for an intermediate or beginner person, so it's best to work with what we've got. Or, if you really want a super-solution, get a Virus.

But for god's sakes please don't use low-quality amateur VST-shitware like Junglist or Hydra or Camel Phat FX or whatever, it's all a bunch of crap and will only muddy up your mix and make it sound piss-poor.


Do you have a link for it? :D
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Postby R3cl41m3r » 18 Aug 2013, 16:11

Xenon96:
R3cl41m3r:Anyone remember this guy? :+
hardstylah:
Show spoiler
My opinion: If you don't know EXACTLY what you're doing, then stay the hell away from all the knobs and buttons, and ESPECIALLY low-end cheapo amateur shit like Junglist or Zeta or anything else.

Only a few people in the world know how to make a nu-kick, even Blutonium Boy doesn't know how do it, and he's a very experienced man! (Part of the reason Blutonium Boy retired is because he hasn't been able to keep up with the times. His Vol.1+2 Blutonium Samples CDs don't contain any Nu-style samples, and his Soundset for Metrum VST is oldskool Hardstyle, so he doesn't have these skills unfortunately.)

In summary, what I'm trying to say is this: Don't even try to get anywhere by youself, because Nu-kicks are an extremely difficult thing to accomplish, and you'll only give yourself a headache. Your song is only as strong as its weakest element. If your Nu-kick isn't EXACTLY 100% right, you will be VERY frustrated.

There are 2 options.

1) There is a soundset called Nu-Style Invasion, made by Dutch producers (http://www.hardsamples.com/) It contains ~30 Nu-kicks, packed as SoundFonts (.SF) that you can play on different notes, and it costs around 50 EUR.

http://www.hardsamples.com/hardstyle-sa ... -p-68.html (Vol.1)
http://www.hardsamples.com/hardstyle-sa ... -p-82.html (Vol.2)

It's not that great. They only managed to get maybe 70% of the way there, but not 100%. However, it's pretty close. Their sounds are very, very dry and painful, although they have a good bass and punch. A lot of EQ work would be needed. But at least someone's already done the hard work of the punch/subbass/distbass. This is perhaps the only sample pack available right now that's more-or-less "OK" (but still not good).

However, that's not what I recommend. I recommend Option #2 if you really want professional results.

2) Rip (that's right, rip) a Nu-Kick from a professional commercial track. And then pitch it in SoundForge, which has an excellent Pitch-Bender. That's what I do in my tracks and it sounds good. Don't pitch the very beginning of the sample (which is the punch), leave the punch as is; only pitch the bass-tail immediately following the punch.

SoundForge has a couple algorithms and anti-aliasing to ensure good pitching. It's very good (H) You need to check the box that says "Preserve Original Length" when pitching, that way all the notes will be equal in length.

There is also Option #3. It's impractical for most of us, but I mention it here because it exists:

3) Virus TI (i.e. hardware). Virus comes with good Nu-punches out of the box. I've heard that Scantraxx artists use Virus, it's not hard to program Nu-kicks there, in fact there's a YouTube video that shows it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9PEJ4551V4

also check out some of these Virus forum links
http://www.access-music.de/forum/index. ... ostID=6628
http://www.infekted.org/virus/showthread.php?p=296005

Unfortunately the Virus costs 1500 EUR and you might still have to learn some skills before getting anything good out of it.

SO the verdict, for the 90% of us who are beginner/intermediate producers of Nu-style, is Option #2. The only way to get satisfying results, right now, is to rip existing pro nu-kicks and pitch them with a good pitchbender (I recommend SoundForge for best results).

Take note: Even Manuel Schleis ("Vengeance") had trouble with these Nu-kicks and couldn't include them in his new VST, Metrum. He has a Hardstyle Expansion for Metrum but it sucks for Nu-Style, it only has oldskool sounds that no one's interested in anymore.

If even the world's top professional can't provide a single (!) good Nu-Kick sample, then there's really no hope for an intermediate or beginner person, so it's best to work with what we've got. Or, if you really want a super-solution, get a Virus.

But for god's sakes please don't use low-quality amateur VST-shitware like Junglist or Hydra or Camel Phat FX or whatever, it's all a bunch of crap and will only muddy up your mix and make it sound piss-poor.


Do you have a link for it? :D

http://harderstate.com/tutorials-f22/arivdtjuh-s-hardstyle-kick-topic-t1751.html?hilit=hardstylah
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Postby robzzi » 21 Aug 2013, 00:06

DJ Bögen | Overdeose Party.... Hahahah :rofl: Sry man.. quite late. Well, only ppl from sweden will understand.

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Postby NEKA » 21 Aug 2013, 03:23

Where's the one from X-qlusive Wildstylez where Zanshi was...not so sober on the chat? :rofl:
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