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Postby RaVaGe » 06 Sep 2017, 17:39

I have a 100% provable theory, music producers are nerds right, so like every good nerd, they post pictures of them in their studios on facebook and such.

So if we follow my theory :

- Requiem is ghostproduced
- RVAGE is ghostproduced (kinda stole my name too)
- Act of rage isn't ghotsproduced

Can keep up with it :+
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Postby Emre » 06 Sep 2017, 19:39

Requiem posts studio pics & vids tho :+
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Postby RaVaGe » 06 Sep 2017, 20:26

Emre:Requiem posts studio pics & vids tho :+


Ah yeah you're right, only checked the pictures xD
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Postby TJOAudio » 06 Sep 2017, 22:50

A lot of people(if not majority) are assisted in some way, because they're DJ's, and that's what they want to be. You get provided with a script/idea/outline/melody, and the producer/engineer just executes it. They're still the artist as its their concept. No idea why there is so much stigma about it in Hardstyle. And most people have to hide it for that exact reason. And you'll probably never know who exactly producers are for who if there are NDA's involved, or it's actually the producers wish to remain unnamed as they have no interests in becoming a public figure and the responsibilities that come with that. So its mostly speculation as it could be some person you never heard of :D
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Postby ID » 07 Sep 2017, 00:12

Sharez:Hi there,

I think thay I am not the only one here who is interested in ghost producing facts or rumors.
Dont get me wrong : I do not care who produced a track as long as the music is good. I will never say 'this track is ghosted so i do not like it anymore', but it always makes me curious when i have a doubt about a track.

So, i wanted to create a thread to discuss about that, I hope this is OK and that the mods will not close this thread.

To start, here are some questions that i got for quite some time :

- Is Requiem ghosted ? By who ?
- Is Act of Rage ghosted ? By who ?
- Is RVAGE ghosted ? By who ?
- Do you think The Prophet made his last tracks ? I think that Psyko Foundation remix was made by Wildstylez.

I would love to have your opinions on that, wherever this is guessing, or facts.


1- Yes, by Deniax (its said numeral times everywhere by i think, a jealous prick on 1gabba, i knew it before but never said it, but since it was said by that guy everywhere...)
2- Yes, won't tell
3- No
4- No, he's ghosted by serval Scx artists, it's not always the same.

Im not against ghost producing, but i really can't stand project of ghosted people who are bragging and stuff but an't do shit on a DAW...

TJOAudio:A lot of people(if not majority) are assisted in some way, because they're DJ's, and that's what they want to be. You get provided with a script/idea/outline/melody, and the producer/engineer just executes it. They're still the artist as its their concept.

Really ? There is only like 1-2 project THAT well thinked... most of ghost project are just artists that sells their tracks to peoples... Like Malua's...
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Postby DirtyTok » 07 Sep 2017, 01:54

ID to the rescue <3
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Postby elgrekoz » 07 Sep 2017, 06:19

ID:
Sharez:- Do you think The Prophet made his last tracks ? I think that Psyko Foundation remix was made by Wildstylez.




4- No, he's ghosted by serval Scx artists, it's not always the same.


Not quite right. He has been co-produced (as he is capable of making music himself as well) by Wildstylez, NCs, JDX, Atmozfears etc. in the past but since R3tro or even a little earlier, The Anarchist is making all his music.
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Postby Reverse Ghost » 07 Sep 2017, 12:37

elgrekoz:
ID:
Sharez:- Do you think The Prophet made his last tracks ? I think that Psyko Foundation remix was made by Wildstylez.




4- No, he's ghosted by serval Scx artists, it's not always the same.


Not quite right. He has been co-produced (as he is capable of making music himself as well) by Wildstylez, NCs, JDX, Atmozfears etc. in the past but since R3tro or even a little earlier, The Anarchist is making all his music.

Makes sense, given he co-runs a record label with large subdivisions.
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Postby Netris » 07 Sep 2017, 13:54

TJOAudio:A lot of people(if not majority) are assisted in some way, because they're DJ's, and that's what they want to be. You get provided with a script/idea/outline/melody, and the producer/engineer just executes it. They're still the artist as its their concept. No idea why there is so much stigma about it in Hardstyle. And most people have to hide it for that exact reason. And you'll probably never know who exactly producers are for who if there are NDA's involved, or it's actually the producers wish to remain unnamed as they have no interests in becoming a public figure and the responsibilities that come with that. So its mostly speculation as it could be some person you never heard of :D


Assistance is not the problem. The problem is people producing whole tracks for others and keeping it secret. And when this secret is (kinda) revealed (it's mostly always rumors, but still), us as fans are betrayed in a way. The guy we love and who, we thought, made those awesome tracks is just a face and nothing else.
I agree with you on the DJ part, but what would you think if your were running a businness and one of your employees paid someone to do all his work because he's incapable or unwilling to do it ? I'd sack the guy not doing anything and hire the one really working.
This is inevitable in a world where the most famous DJ "produce" the most famous tracks, but it isn't a good thing for that matter.
All in all, ghostproducing is for music what doping is for cycling.
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Postby ID » 07 Sep 2017, 14:17

elgrekoz:
ID:
Sharez:- Do you think The Prophet made his last tracks ? I think that Psyko Foundation remix was made by Wildstylez.




4- No, he's ghosted by serval Scx artists, it's not always the same.


Not quite right. He has been co-produced (as he is capable of making music himself as well) by Wildstylez, NCs, JDX, Atmozfears etc. in the past but since R3tro or even a little earlier, The Anarchist is making all his music.

I wonder if he really is the only one still... because that antiphased ugly "stampuhh stamp remix" is amateurish af...
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Postby Amentis » 07 Sep 2017, 16:23

elgrekoz:
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Sharez:- Do you think The Prophet made his last tracks ? I think that Psyko Foundation remix was made by Wildstylez.




4- No, he's ghosted by serval Scx artists, it's not always the same.


Not quite right. He has been co-produced (as he is capable of making music himself as well) by Wildstylez, NCs, JDX, Atmozfears etc. in the past but since R3tro or even a little earlier, The Anarchist is making all his music.


Not quite correct. Thomas Duddridge was the producer of The Anarchist. That's the name you are looking for, not the whole act.
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Postby Euphorizer » 07 Sep 2017, 19:06

As TJO points out - it is strange there is such a stigma behind it in EDM (and hardstyle specifically), when it is common practise in virtually the entire rest of the music world.
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Postby Emre » 07 Sep 2017, 19:24

Euphorizer:As TJO points out - it is strange there is such a stigma behind it in EDM (and hardstyle specifically), when it is common practise in virtually the entire rest of the music world.


Simple, hardstyle scene is more dedicated and dig into these kinds of details faster. I'm sure half of the pop scene (is there even a 'community') or even the bigroom/tomorrowland mainstage music kinda music scene doesn't give a fuck about who produces for who. Hardstyle scene is close, dedicated, yet a bit obsessed about what's 'OK to do' or what's 'Not OK to do'. :P
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Postby Euphorizer » 07 Sep 2017, 19:52

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Euphorizer:As TJO points out - it is strange there is such a stigma behind it in EDM (and hardstyle specifically), when it is common practise in virtually the entire rest of the music world.


Simple, hardstyle scene is more dedicated and dig into these kinds of details faster. I'm sure half of the pop scene (is there even a 'community') or even the bigroom/tomorrowland mainstage music kinda music scene doesn't give a fuck about who produces for who. Hardstyle scene is close, dedicated, yet a bit obsessed about what's 'OK to do' or what's 'Not OK to do'. :P


Yeah, but we're all people at the end of the day.

What is often failed to mention is that speculation topics like this one can often wrongly hurt artists/brands. Idk, you guys do you of course though :p I don't get to decide at all what somebody else thinks of another artist, haha.
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Postby elgrekoz » 12 Sep 2017, 06:01

Amentis:
elgrekoz:Not quite correct. Thomas Duddridge was the producer of The Anarchist. That's the name you are looking for, not the whole act.

Well, I meant Thomas anyway as Niels, has always been the dj of the act, from their "The Flanker" days and onwards to "The Anarchist" project.
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