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Postby Trantix » 04 Feb 2018, 04:44

Hey guys,

I've been getting more into the underground hardcore genres and I've been hearing different genre names thrown around for what a song is. Can anyone clear up what these genres generally are:

-Industrial Hardcore
-Industrial (I've heard it's technically different)
-Industrial Techno
-Doomcore (I've heard it used for much slower industrial like 100 bpm but then also 130bpm hardcore)
-Darkcore
-Slowcore

Sorry if this isn't in the right location for the topic.
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Postby lilfrenchidiot » 04 Feb 2018, 11:28

i can't help you but i am interested in answers

SOMEONE MAKE A GUIDE TO HARDCORE PLZ :fist:
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Postby The Convicted » 04 Feb 2018, 11:57

For the roots of hardcore I can offer you this:

http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

The guy who created this said he's going to complete a much fresher version of the guide this year.

I'm not a hardcore expert, but industrial and industrial techno themselves don't really belong to hardcore afaik :P And as for doomcore, you're kinda right:



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Postby Future Shokk » 04 Feb 2018, 12:45

Slowcore? Never heard this term before :? Slower HC was always a thing in the Mainstream HC genre (not right now sadly) and Industrial HC was always seen as the slower subgenre.

Darkcore was never an official subgenre :p It was just a trendy selling name back in the days for the darker/harder tracks somewhere between Mainstream and Industrial. I call it Maindustrial :+
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Postby Faber93 » 04 Feb 2018, 13:17

Ok, I'll try to do a sort of list, with the premise that I don't listen to all the sub genres in the hc spectrum, so I could forget something maybe
As Convicted said, Industrial techno is a techno subgenre, while Industrial is too generic as a term (could be related to a loooot of genres, even the non-electronic ones), and slowcore imo doesn't even exist, I feel it's only a term to describe the slower kind of hardcore in a period in wich the fast sound is growing so much.

-DOOMCORE: you're right, it is the kinda hardcor you and Convicted described

-INDUSTRIAL HARDCORE: To be honest this genre could include different tempos, I'll show you some examples:





- CROSSBREED: Is a different kind of industrial hardcore wich focus iitself in a sort of breeding of drum and bass elements in hardcore, is tempo is usually 175


FRENCHCORE:


UK HARDCORE: With this name I mean the kind of hardcore produced by the UK underground hardcore artists like Producer, Hellfish ecc.., wich usually has lot of breakbeat influences
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TERROR:


SPEEDCORE:


FLASHCORE: It's basically a kind of speedcore, but with more flashy kicks and mental elements


ACIDCORE: This is easier to find at some free parties


DARKCORE: Is more a kind of term used to describe that kind of 150bpm circa dark kind of hardcore, but it's more used for tracks from the past like, from what I know

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I hope I helped you, obviously someone could help me adding something more if I forgot something
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Postby The Convicted » 04 Feb 2018, 13:30

^ Hmm, not sure but maybe Breakcore also belongs here? What I've heard so far is mostly the mixture of Jungle and D&B, but there might be some hardcore influences. If so, then go listen to guys like Venetian Snares, Bong-Ra or Igorrr.

Also Neurocore tracks are flashcore? That's new to me :D
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Postby Faber93 » 04 Feb 2018, 14:03

The Convicted:^ Hmm, not sure but maybe Breakcore also belongs here? What I've heard so far is mostly the mixture of Jungle and D&B, but there might be some hardcore influences. If so, then go listen to guys like Venetian Snares, Bong-Ra or Igorrr.

Also Neurocore tracks are flashcore? That's new to me :D

No, breakcore is more a kind of separated genre, even if you can feel some jungle influence or some hardcore one. Then, there are lot of different kinds of breakcore tracks, remaining into Venetian Snares listen to his albums Filth and Traditional synthesizer music or Ross Csillag Alatt Szulettet and see the difference, for example. It has a particolar structure and his particolar sounds as a genre

For flascore, yes, it's quite superflouos to separate it from speedcore maybe, but yes they use to call it like this
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Postby xeLL » 04 Feb 2018, 17:22

Not sure what you would call this style but definitely worth checking out.
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Postby natenczas » 04 Feb 2018, 19:02

xeLL:Not sure what you would call this style but definitely worth checking out.


First and the last one sounds like Crossbreed to me
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Postby Trantix » 04 Feb 2018, 19:30

Faber93:Ok, I'll try to do a sort of list, with the premise that I don't listen to all the sub genres in the hc spectrum, so I could forget something maybe
As Convicted said, Industrial techno is a techno subgenre, while Industrial is too generic as a term (could be related to a loooot of genres, even the non-electronic ones), and slowcore imo doesn't even exist, I feel it's only a term to describe the slower kind of hardcore in a period in wich the fast sound is growing so much.


Thank you for clearing some things up. I think I understand the difference between doomcore and industrial hardcore now as well as the other genres you mentioned. Your examples of darkcore reminds me a lot of the tracks released on Traumatic and Dark Decent.

Do you know what genre this song would be then?


The Convicted:For the roots of hardcore I can offer you this:

http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

The guy who created this said he's going to complete a much fresher version of the guide this year.

I'm not a hardcore expert, but industrial and industrial techno themselves don't really belong to hardcore afaik :P And as for doomcore, you're kinda right:


Thank you for the website, it's pretty cool. Hopefully he's able to get an updated version out because it's helpful.

Future Shokk:Slowcore? Never heard this term before :? Slower HC was always a thing in the Mainstream HC genre (not right now sadly) and Industrial HC was always seen as the slower subgenre.

Darkcore was never an official subgenre :p It was just a trendy selling name back in the days for the darker/harder tracks somewhere between Mainstream and Industrial. I call it Maindustrial :+


On some doomcore songs, I've seen in the comments of people talking about slowcore but what you said makes sense.
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Postby Reverse Ghost » 04 Feb 2018, 23:54

xeLL:Not sure what you would call this style but definitely worth checking out.


Satan is Crossbreed/Drum & Bass. Darkstep I think if you want to really get into specifics.
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Postby Davi_Jo » 05 Feb 2018, 00:20

Also "breakcore" specially with some earlier production if about Satan ;)

About Slowcore I understood it's a word that belongs much more to the Rock/Hardcore punk background. People probably used it on comments because making confusion with Doomcore or slower Industrial Hardcore.

Darkcore as it had been explained earlier was used much more in the past years to define those mainstream Hardcore tracks with a darker atmosphere but with darkcore you can even define a subgenre of jungle, nothing to do with hardcore at all again.


About "Creature-come little closer" can be defined still as Doomcore but with some other influences. But roughly still is on industrial hardcore sphere.
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