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kinekt:o why would it be so weird for q-dance to do the same? not everyone travels across the u.s. to attend a festival, so offering the same experience in different cities is just a way to broaden the festival brand name. Sensation white is doing the same thing this year bringing 1 festival name to several different cities. I think anything is possible.

is Hardstyle as popular as House?

Of course not, but size doesnt not really matter. Insomanic has created the basscon event series but the size of the events are not massive. There's also identity festival. I don't think any of us can predict 100% correctly what they plan to do cause anything could happen. In the states it is more common to have a common festival/event name that takes place in many cities compared to euro/australia. My guess is they might create a new event name that is like a touring event.

Ill be honest. Im not excited. Shit gets fucked in america. I wanna see hardstyle live, but i also dont want to at the same time because most big name producer/dj's all sound the same with da dongs. Which i'm betting they would only bring the big names. Plus most of those producers can't mix for shit imo. I don't wanna go to a show and hear 3 or 4 climaxes in a row. Boring. /end rant.

This is good exposure for q-dance and hardstyle and all that jazz. I just dont think that its gonna work out too well.

kinekt:q-dance stage was amazing, between 5,000-10,000 people at all times. how is that not a success? it was the very first hardstyle stage in america EVER.

@tekmymusic -

Those are some of the most ignorant stereotypical comments I've ever heard. Dutch hardstyle is commercialzed TO THE MAX. In fact most americans prefer reverse bass, high energy dance music.. not the clap a long pop remixes that dominate todays hardstyle sound. Hardstyle has a draw of between 1,000 to 10,000 people in many cities. Why do numbers matter? Quality > Quantity. American hardstyle crowds LOVE the music, they arent there just cause its "hip".

I dont say that dutch hs isn´t commercial nowadays , but if you look at the aftermovies and videos on youtube , you can see that the stage is packed with people when headhunterz , coone ,noisecontrollers are playing , those people are playing exact the style with cheesy melodys an soft kick you said the most americans don´t like , and if there are some artists playing the raw - harder stuff , they are going away , where are the people on the endymion show ? there where maby 700 -800 people left ,... and if you read my comment it says , there are some true harstyle lover ( wich i include you , cause you know what you are talking about ) an yeah maby there are in some citys 1000- 10000 people who listen to hardstyle but it isnt that hard to find that amount of people in citys where 4.000.000 + are living in . and yeah you are also right hs nowadays is commercial but only if you like the big names, but there are enough artist left who are playing really hard music without all the shit vocals and soft kick.

Hardcore is not big and has a very small audience... we are talking about hardstyle/hard dance here, why even bring up endymion? He also played closing set, when everyone is leaving the show at 5am trying to beat the 3 hour traffic out of the venue if you stay till the end.

You tried to argue that america is somehow going to ruin hardstyle, when it was already that way before american exposure. It will NEVER be mainstream here like house/dubstep music, it simply doesn't click with the average american. Even if the hardstyle festivals begin to draw 10,000+ here it will be the most dedicated underground scene out of any electronic music. Hardstyle is one of the last genres to have a lot of following in the rave/underground scene here and there's a reason for that, its not designed for your average american even with the popstyle remixes. The drive of the music does not appease everyone

But isn't that the same in the rest of the world? Even here in Holland it used to be underground, very dedicated underground yes, but look where we are right now

The hardstyle scene in america is begging for more

If you listen to the hardstyle coming out in the US/Canada you'll notice not a lot of it is incredibly poppy. All of the popstyle like wildstylez, brennan heart, etc, is european. If anything I'd say a lot of the N american stuff coming out these days is sounding more and more like the stuff coming out of italy.

wanderer:The hardstyle scene in america is begging for more

If you listen to the hardstyle coming out in the US/Canada you'll notice not a lot of it is incredibly poppy. All of the popstyle like wildstylez, brennan heart, etc, is european. If anything I'd say a lot of the N american stuff coming out these days is sounding more and more like the stuff coming out of italy.

A lot of American Hardstyle fans are still envying the days of early nustyle, since they searched for Hardstyle to escape from Pop House.

Reverse Ghost:

wanderer:The hardstyle scene in america is begging for more

If you listen to the hardstyle coming out in the US/Canada you'll notice not a lot of it is incredibly poppy. All of the popstyle like wildstylez, brennan heart, etc, is european. If anything I'd say a lot of the N american stuff coming out these days is sounding more and more like the stuff coming out of italy.

A lot of American Hardstyle fans are still envying the days of early nustyle, since they searched for Hardstyle to escape from Pop House.

I agree. Those were the days. I rarely find any tracks that are as good as late 2006 - 2010. (By rarely i mean like 1 in 20)

I'm excited for this.

I've been waiting for an opportunity, along with many other Americans, to see a few of my favorites without the expense of crossing the pond. Crossing such a large pond isn't cheap, you know. Most of us can only do so once a year, if at all.

kinekt:I hope hardstyle artists realize americans like it a bit different and bring us more reverse bass and more hard driving kicks. I was at q-dance stage at edc 2012 for all 3 days for every single minute. Multiple times they would cut out the mixer volume to get the crowd to sing a long and it was the most awkward silence every time. Then after excessive dongs someone finally played a high energy reverse bass and you could just hear the crowd erupt in a roar of WHOOOOOOOOO's and FUCKYEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA's. Every single time.

Thats what i am talking about, it may be because i am a huge fan of early stuff that it is the reverse basslines that i am addicted too..... there are some producers like frontliner who can actually create a dongy kick that is unique and attractive... other than that they all sound the samex10...... but i do agree on how us americans find the sing along very awkward.... lol i mean when im with my GF and the sing alongs start... it makes me feel weird... so i skip it hahaha i dont know if im the only one

Markove:I'm excited for this.

I've been waiting for an opportunity, along with many other Americans, to see a few of my favorites without the expense of crossing the pond. Crossing such a large pond isn't cheap, you know. Most of us can only do so once a year, if at all.

This! I've been once in the last 7 years ... luckily it was this year

Hoping it will come semi-close to Ohio.

-Billionaire
-Buys Q dance
-Brings Q Dance to America
-Turns every event & festival into Cirque du Soleil : "Avicci & friends on Ice"
And," Disney presents: Tiësto " .

In my mind, one annual Q-Dance show in the USA, one in Canada. That would be enough without crossing that "sellout" point, and still showcasing some amazing talent.